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Notes From Training Camp 2025
I know everyvteam should tryvto improve via FA/draft,,but I think we have at most spots.

QB: same to better. Ridder is a better #3. Burrow with a healthy camp.

RB: better. Brown starter from jump. Perine + Brooks is better than Moss & T. Williams. Brightwell a decent RB4.

WR: better. Same personnell, but Jones is healthier, Burton isn't AWOL, and Yoshi looks better.

TE: better. If you count All as already being out. Fant is a legit good oickup who can be a TE1. Rest is the same.

OT: a wash?  Worse only if you count T. Brown as healthy. Ford & Cochran were your reserve OTs past year, and are again. Better is OBJ healthier. Mims hampered again.

IOL: marginally better. Fairchild & Patrick will be better than Volson/Cappa.

DE: worse with Trey out. Better if he's back. Stewart + Sample over Hubbard. 

DT: marginally better. Slaton over Rankins + Tufele. Jenkins & Jackson healthier. 

LB: marginally better. Knight + Burks + Carter is annupgrade, bur Pratt/ADG were not bums. 

CB: better health butcworse oersonnel with Hilton gone. 

S: same. 
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Lucas Patrick oh my

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(Yesterday, 07:05 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:
Lucas Patrick oh my

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Yikes! How many years has it been since we had solid G play? I'm thinking Big Z...if so, that's gotta be close to a decade ago. 

Love seeing that from the young D-lineman, but hate seeing the IOL get rag-dolled. 
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(Yesterday, 08:04 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Yikes! How many years has it been since we had solid G play? I'm thinking Big Z...if so, that's gotta be close to a decade ago. 

Love seeing that from the young D-lineman, but hate seeing the IOL get rag-dolled. 

This half-assing FO and their approach to building a team.. They get off to a great start by cutting Cappa and making a conscious decision to replace Volson via the draft, but what do they do to fill the RG spot? You guessed it, they went dumpster diving for the cheapest POS that "seemed" like he might be able to remain standing upright for a season.
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(Yesterday, 08:04 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Yikes! How many years has it been since we had solid G play? I'm thinking Big Z...if so, that's gotta be close to a decade ago. 

Love seeing that from the young D-lineman, but hate seeing the IOL get rag-dolled. 

Cappa was good here until his ankle injury

Boling was here after Z left

Spain wasn't terrible his 1-year
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(Yesterday, 03:14 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Golden was asked which defensive player has made the biggest leap this year when Sirius was at training camp. He said without a doubt it was Kris Jenkins Jr. I expect big things from our DT this year.

i do as well. He's has been some really good flashes this training camp. I dont know that he should be throwing our RG to the ground one handed but he has looked good.
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(Yesterday, 08:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Cappa was good here until his ankle injury

Boling was here after Z left

Spain wasn't terrible his 1-year

Those guys were all serviceable, I agree with that. Wts, it would be nice be able to feel confident about the IOL play weekly. 
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Jenkins is freakishly strong. We did not get to see a ton of that last year with the injury.

But ya'll are freaking about Patrick getting tossed when Ford gave up the sack.

OL should have been priority #2 after bringing back the big 3.

FO scorecard: 
1) Deals for Chase, Tee, Trey. 
---2/3. 66.6%. Fail. 
2) Fix the OL. 
--Cut Cappa, Let T. Brown walk  
In: Fairchild, Patrick, Rivers. Maybe McLaughlin.
Grade: C-/D. 
3) Bring back the solid players from last year if the deal is reasonable & cut dead weight.
Retained: BJ Hill, Ossai, Gesicki, Grandy, Hudson, Adomitis, Robbins, Kirkland, M. Wilson.
Let walk/go: Hubbard, Rankins, Hilton, Pratt
Grade: B
4) Low budget FA moves 
In: Slaton, Fant, Burks, Perine
Grade: A- 
5) Draft: 
Hated it on draft night. Mostly for the redundncies, reaches, and lack of trade downs, and the risk of the Stewart pick. 
Grade: C up from a D. But really too early to tell. 
6) Cap management/max space 
Grade: D. 

Still in C-/D territory. A Trey deal moves it up a full letter grade. Some OL help (Risner, cut guy) in addition would put us in the B/B+. range. 
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that Patrick disaster reminds me of that center we had few years back that was embarrassly destroyed during a game by a squeeler, of all teams...with a body slam.
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(Yesterday, 06:58 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I know everyvteam should tryvto improve via FA/draft,,but I think we have at most spots.

QB: same to better. Ridder is a better #3. Burrow with a healthy camp.

RB: better. Brown starter from jump. Perine + Brooks is better than Moss & T. Williams. Brightwell a decent RB4.

WR: better. Same personnell, but Jones is healthier, Burton isn't AWOL, and Yoshi looks better.

TE: better. If you count All as already being out. Fant is a legit good oickup who can be a TE1. Rest is the same.

OT: a wash?  Worse only if you count T. Brown as healthy. Ford & Cochran were your reserve OTs past year, and are again. Better is OBJ healthier. Mims hampered again.

IOL: marginally better. Fairchild & Patrick will be better than Volson/Cappa.

DE: worse with Trey out. Better if he's back. Stewart + Sample over Hubbard. 

DT: marginally better. Slaton over Rankins + Tufele. Jenkins & Jackson healthier. 

LB: marginally better. Knight + Burks + Carter is annupgrade, bur Pratt/ADG were not bums. 

CB: better health butcworse oersonnel with Hilton gone. 

S: same. 
Slaton has to play 2 games and he is automatically better than Rankins. I personally think we will be very happy with Slaton
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(9 hours ago)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Jenkins is freakishly strong. We did not get to see a ton of that last year with the injury.

But ya'll are freaking about Patrick getting tossed when Ford gave up the sack.

OL should have been priority #2 after bringing back the big 3.

FO scorecard: 
1) Deals for Chase, Tee, Trey. 
---2/3. 66.6%. Fail. 
2) Fix the OL. 
--Cut Cappa, Let T. Brown walk  
In: Fairchild, Patrick, Rivers. Maybe McLaughlin.
Grade: C-/D. 
3) Bring back the solid players from last year if the deal is reasonable & cut dead weight.
Retained: BJ Hill, Ossai, Gesicki, Grandy, Hudson, Adomitis, Robbins, Kirkland, M. Wilson.
Let walk/go: Hubbard, Rankins, Hilton, Pratt
Grade: B
4) Low budget FA moves 
In: Slaton, Fant, Burks, Perine
Grade: A- 
5) Draft: 
Hated it on draft night. Mostly for the redundncies, reaches, and lack of trade downs, and the risk of the Stewart pick. 
Grade: C up from a D. But really too early to tell. 
6) Cap management/max space 
Grade: D. 

Still in C-/D territory. A Trey deal moves it up a full letter grade. Some OL help (Risner, cut guy) in addition would put us in the B/B+. range. 

Cappa is injured again
Trent Brown was medically cleared from his patellar tendon tear but was placed on PUP for an unknown reason. He had yet to see the field. I don’t know if I would have cut Cappa until they were sure they had a replacement but getting rid of Brown was the correct one
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