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Trey Hendrickson Update
several Bengals players including Joe work out there
 
It's next season and I'm hopeful




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(Yesterday, 02:11 PM)George Cantstandya Wrote: Black Sheep Perfomance

https://www.trainbsp.com/about

Apparently he has a house in Florida but I'm sure he has some arrangements in the area here as well:

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/685734708/nfl-pro-bowler-trey-hendrickson-makes-the-move-to-floridas-space-coast/

https://crazyluxuryhomes.com/cincinnati-bengals-star-trey-hendricksons-oceanfront-condo-in-satellite-beach-florida/

Trey said his wife is a Doctor at Cincinnati Hospital. I expect he does alot of his training in Black Sheep Preformance.

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(Yesterday, 02:15 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: TY

Guess it is good to hear he is working out possibly.

Back to back sack leader is working out where ever he is located. 
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This thread is long lol. I wanted to share some light and thoughts...

When Trey signed the one year extension, he admitted to doing so to avoid the Franchise tag. Trey is intimating that the FO implied to him, that they would take care of him. Nothing was in writing. There was trust there. Trey saw the FO take of Burrow, then Chase/Higgins. Trey assumed similar value deals.

I think Burrow, Chase, and Higgins were awarded great contracts because they are in their prime. Simply put, Trey is aging and most front offices will use age as leverage to low ball athletes. The Bengals FO is no different. I think Trey feels some sense of betrayal there. Most athletes do not anticipate retiring from their sport unless injury provokes retirement. Trey does not want to retire.

With that said, Trey's options are to retire or accept the low ball offer then sign elsewhere after this contract expires. I don't see much other choices.
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(Yesterday, 12:30 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I could but I have better things to do rather than spending an inordinate amount of time doing so...yet...time after time..season after season..when teams in the nfl exceed..playoffs..superbowl...afterwards.....you always have a transition of players from said teams that are sought after by other clubs or they request a redo of their existing contracts in an effort to be paid more

It's not really that you have better things to do. It's that you can't do it. 

Typically, trolls don't answer questions, they just post stupid stuff over and over. 



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(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)Synric Wrote: Trey said his wife is a Doctor at Cincinnati Hospital. I expect he does alot of his training in Black Sheep Preformance.

Wait...you mean he wants a long term contract (from the beginning) because he has roots here and it's where he wants to be?

Fer shame. 



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(Yesterday, 05:40 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: It's not really that you have better things to do. It's that you can't do it. 

Typically, trolls don't answer questions, they just post stupid stuff over and over. 

There you go again complimenting board members. You are very objective. Ninja
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(Yesterday, 02:51 PM)Synric Wrote: Trey said his wife is a Doctor at Cincinnati Hospital. I expect he does alot of his training in Black Sheep Preformance.

She is a Dr of Pharmacy...she was working at the VA Hopsital.
 
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(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: This thread is long lol.  I wanted to share some light and thoughts...

When Trey signed the one year extension, he admitted to doing so to avoid the Franchise tag.  Trey is intimating that the FO implied to him, that they would take care of him.  Nothing was in writing.   There was trust there.  Trey saw the FO take of Burrow, then Chase/Higgins.  Trey assumed similar value deals.  

I think Burrow, Chase, and Higgins were awarded great contracts because they are in their prime.  Simply put, Trey is aging and most front offices will use age as leverage to low ball athletes.  The Bengals FO is no different.  I think Trey feels some sense of betrayal there.  Most athletes do not anticipate retiring from their sport unless injury provokes retirement.  Trey does not want to retire.  

With that said, Trey's options are to retire or accept the low ball offer then sign elsewhere after this contract expires.  I don't see much other choices.

I do think with 30+ million in cap space it gets resolved with Trey at some point. 

But as far as his options nobody should want this. I'm not suggesting you or anyone else wants this but may just be pointing out this is what the Bengals are going to give him as options. But nobody should want the Bengals to operate like this because it's bad business. There's a reason teams cave so quickly to trade demands. Football is a business and a large part of that is player relations. We shouldn't want disgruntled players on the team for the message it sends to players on the team and around the league. If a player is disgruntled either pay or trade him for the best interest of the team and player. Should be a pretty simple talent evaluation to decide what direction they would like to go.
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(Yesterday, 06:20 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: I do think with 30+ million in cap space it gets resolved with Trey at some point. 

But as far as his options nobody should want this. I'm not suggesting you or anyone else wants this but may just be pointing out this is what the Bengals are going to give him as options. But nobody should want the Bengals to operate like this because it's bad business. There's a reason teams cave so quickly to trade demands. Football is a business and a large part of that is player relations. We shouldn't want disgruntled players on the team for the message it sends to players on the team and around the league. If a player is disgruntled either pay or trade him for the best interest of the team and player. Should be a pretty simple talent evaluation to decide what direction they would like to go.

Give Trey 31+ million in 2025 and 32 million in 2026 and becomes a Bengals ambassodor immediately in the 2025 locker room. 

Money heals bad feelings every time
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(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: This thread is long lol.  I wanted to share some light and thoughts...

When Trey signed the one year extension, he admitted to doing so to avoid the Franchise tag...

Avoiding the franchise tag?  Trey still had 2 years left on his contract when he signed the 1 year extension so there was absolutely no talk of a using the franchise tag at that point.  Trey was only 2 years into his first contract with 2 more left to go.  Also, Trey just came off of an 8 sack season so he wasnt even close to being in the top 10 DEs at that time in regards to sacks.  This claim about the Bengals tagging Trey when he still had 2 more years left on his contract and was #30 in sacks makes no sense.   

The reality is Trey is the one that went to the Bengals after only fulfilling 2 years of his contract wanting more money while coming off an 8 sack season.  The Bengals gave him more money including an 8 million dollar signing bonus but did so by adding another year to Trey's contract.  This is why he is signed for 21 million for the 2025 season.  He doesnt like this deal now because he went from an 8 sack season to back to back 17.5 sack seasons and screwed himself in the process for being greedy.


(Yesterday, 03:57 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Trey is intimating that the FO implied to him, that they would take care of him.  Nothing was in writing.   There was trust there.  Trey saw the FO take of Burrow, then Chase/Higgins.  Trey assumed similar value deals...

What good is trust when your DE wants to redo his contract every year?  Trey was only 2 years into his 4 year contract before he demanded a raise.  The Bengals gave him a raise yet Trey comes back again after that season and wants another raise and to redo his contract again when he wasnt even eligible.  The Bengals told him to come back next year and they would take care of him. The question is why would the Bengals offer Trey 28 million?  Where did that figure come from.  When Trey asked for a raise before last season, did he ask for 28 million per season and the Bengals said come back next year and we will take care of you?  And the Bengals then offered the 28 million after the season was over like they said they would but now Trey wants even more money than the Bengals agreed to last year?  The Bengals could have done exactly what they said they would do.  Trey could have wanted 28 million last year and the Bengals said we will give it to you next year and did exactly that.
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(Yesterday, 06:53 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Give Trey 31+ million in 2025 and 32 million in 2026 and becomes a Bengals ambassodor immediately in the 2025 locker room. 

Money heals bad feelings every time

Agreed. If Trey, Shemar as well, get signed then the negative vibe goes away and they can focus on ball.
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(06-02-2025, 01:46 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: They spent $28.75m/yr on their 0x Pro Bowl #2 WR who last had 1k yards 3 years ago.

But the 1st Team All-Pro back-to-back 17.5 sack guy should take even less than that because otherwise the Bengals can't afford to keep a defense together? Lol

(5 hours ago)TecmoBengals Wrote: Agreed. If Trey, Shemar as well, get signed then the negative vibe goes away and they can focus on ball.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you sir are naive or blind.

The negative nancy's aren't going any where.  Literally in the same thread where we signed Chase/Tee to unprecedented deals, people immediately were "it's about time, but....." in the very same breath.

There are some people that will never be satisfied, regardless of who is in the FO.
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(4 hours ago)Stewy Wrote: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you sir are naive or blind.

The negative nancy's aren't going any where.  Literally in the same thread where we signed Chase/Tee to unprecedented deals, people immediately were "it's about time, but....." in the very same breath.

There are some people that will never be satisfied, regardless of who is in the FO.

I was agreeing with Luvnit2 about the negative vibes that Trey, and I was suggesting Shemar, might have will go away if they get the money they want. I wasn't referring to how fans might feel or think. No need to be an ass especially when you're haha'ing it up over the wrong thing.
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(4 hours ago)Stewy Wrote: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you sir are naive or blind.

The negative nancy's aren't going any where.  Literally in the same thread where we signed Chase/Tee to unprecedented deals, people immediately were "it's about time, but....." in the very same breath.

There are some people that will never be satisfied, regardless of who is in the FO.

It's the nature of the salary cap.
Fans want their big players extended, but they want enough cap space remaining to really stack the team.
Once teams start paying big bucks to certain core members like Chase, Burrow, and Higgins, it means less available for other players and/or the FO has to find ways to get creative with contracts to make the room.

Personally, I would have prioritized Hendrickson over Higgins, but that's me.
Arguably, it's harder to find a sack artist of the caliber of Hendrickson than it is to find a WR2 who can put up ~1000-1100 yards.


Bengals have to either be able to draft and develop very well and quickly to have a cheap but effective defense, find some bargain FAs who perform above their cost, or they may have to accept their defense will likely be somewhat below middle of the pack and hope the offense can score enough to have that not matter.
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(3 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Personally, I would have prioritized Hendrickson over Higgins, but that's me.
Arguably, it's harder to find a sack artist of the caliber of Hendrickson than it is to find a WR2 who can put up ~1000-1100 yards.

Interesting take. The more I think about it, I agree: I'd have prioritized Trey over Tee. I wonder what influenced Tee over Trey? Was it Mike valuing skill players, the Burrow comments, Tee being on the tag, ownership locking on a deal is a deal with Trey, etc.?
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(Yesterday, 05:59 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: There you go again complimenting board members. You are very objective. Ninja

Surely even you can see the motives and real reasoning behind that poster, can't you?
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(2 hours ago)Truck_1_0_1_ Wrote: Surely even you can see the motives and real reasoning behind that poster, can't you?

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I'm gonna go with..."no".  Cool



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(2 hours ago)TecmoBengals Wrote: Interesting take. The more I think about it, I agree: I'd have prioritized Trey over Tee. I wonder what influenced Tee over Trey? Was it Mike valuing skill players, the Burrow comments, Tee being on the tag, ownership locking on a deal is a deal with Trey, etc.?

I would have to guess it was:
1) Age (26 for Higgins vs 30 for Hendrickson)
2) Impact to signing Chase long-term (reportedly Chase was waiting for Higgins deal to get done before he would sign)

We know the FO has been wary to sign players 30+ years old in fear they will (greatly) decline in performance by the end of that contract. And if they do sign them, they typically don't try to sign them more than 2 years because of that worry.
We know Hendrickson would prefer to retire a Bengal, and he probably has another few years left.
Bengals might be offering another 2-year extension to keep him through 2027, which would be when he turns 33 years old.
But Hendrickson might think he has another 3-4 years beyond this year and wants to be signed through 2028-2029, making him 34-35 years old.
At age 30, he's shown no signs of slowing down yet, putting up his best numbers of his career the past 2 years, so I think he's got another 3 good years for sure, and he can probably play another 1-2 after that at what I would say would be "at least" a solid (6-8 sacks) level.

If you can work out a 3-year extension that is ~$90-100 mill where it's more front-loaded to help justify not paying him more when he's nearing the end, I think that's the best.
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(4 hours ago)Stewy Wrote: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....you sir are naive or blind.

The negative nancy's aren't going any where.  Literally in the same thread where we signed Chase/Tee to unprecedented deals, people immediately were "it's about time, but....." in the very same breath.

There are some people that will never be satisfied, regardless of who is in the FO.

Yes people will be satisfied. When the bengals do what no other team in the NFL would do and raise Chase and Tees cap hit this year instead of lowering it needs to be pointed out. I forget the figure but if we just literally do the average on contract for the league we have like 20 more million in cap to spend. That's a starting G and S right there. People want to see this team win and not have Burrow get hurt 
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