Trey Hendrickson Update

[Nicomo Cosca]

(Yesterday, 08:45 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: I mean our only out might be to trade him for a S or a CB and go with Shemar and Murphy

Burrow should pull a Carson if those are the starting DE’s. He will be starring at missing the playoffs for a 3rd consecutive year of his prime.

[J24]

(Yesterday, 08:45 PM)Bengalfan4life27c Wrote: I mean our only out might be to trade him for a S or a CB and go with Shemar and Murphy

Are you trying to give people strokes?

[BengalsBong]

(Yesterday, 04:52 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Dammit. Missed it by a minute.

I am after Vinyl

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 08:59 PM)Bengalion Wrote: Don't joke about this. Murphy's been a disaster, and Shemar's unproven rookie.

Agree, crazy talk. I like Shemar, but as you say he is an unproven rookie with a lot of work ahead of him. Murphy has been a bust so far.

Ossai is the only decent proven pass rusher if we trade Trey.

[NUGDUKWE]

(Yesterday, 09:58 PM)J24 Wrote: Are you trying to give people strokes?

We should pay him or trade him. We should 1000% not go into the season trying to force him to play on his current contract. Seems like the most Bengals thing to do though.

[J24]

(Yesterday, 10:58 PM)NUGDUKWE Wrote: We should pay him or trade him. We should 1000% not go into the season trying to force him to play on his current contract. Seems like the most Bengals thing to do though.

I don't have a problem with trading him but you better get a starting Edge in return.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

I seriously doubt we tag him this year, as he is under contract.

Though, IIRC, we did do it with Tee?


Nevermind, I am remembering wrong.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 10:59 PM)J24 Wrote: I don't have a problem with trading him but you better get a starting Edge in return.

Yeah, we have to add a proven pass rushing Edge if we do trade Trey for damn sure.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 09:11 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The guarantees are lower because neither of those guys are near being start to the caliber of Trey Hendrickson. Hell, Milton Williams spends over 50% of defensive snaps on the bench. His best year stats at DT look like the end of the road stats for a guy like Geno Atkins. There's a lot of risk in paying either of those guys high contract with max guarantees. Montaze Sweat has been up and down and battled injuries his career, but at least he averages around 55% of defensive snaps played. Whereas a guy like Trey Hendrickson is averaging about 69% of defensive snaps played since joining the Bengals. Trey is absolutely worth the money and will live up to the guaranteed portion that he's looking for. Those other guys that you presented, I'm not so sure about.

Is it? Here is Crosby who is 28 and just extended. Looks like 60% guarntee for DE 2 years younger. Take a look at the list, it is normal the guarantees are not over 65% and as they age, they get lower and lower percent guaranteed. Take a look for yourself. Watt is a case of cap manipulation. Burns, Bosa and others are less than 55% guaranteed.

https://overthecap.com/position/edge-rusher

Maxx Crosby

Raiders

28 years old
Total Value $106,500,000
APY $35,500,000
Total Guaranteed $91,500,000
Fully Guaranteed $62,500,000
2030 UFA

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 09:54 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Burrow should pull a Carson if those are the starting DE’s. He will be starring at missing the playoffs for a 3rd consecutive year of his prime.

So much drama. JB just got 2 huge contracts for Chase and Higgins, now he should ask demand a trade and not show up to make a point.

Sorry, this is just stupid. Bengals would let him sit out, fine him and not pay him. In 2026, he is still a Bengal and accomplished nothing.

[Mer]

Sounds good Kevin. I, for one, understand you're talking about tagging him after this season. I'm of the belief that when you sign a contract, you fulfill the contract. How many players that have a down year are pounding the table to lower the contract money for the remaining years? Or," I need an extension with less money because my crappy play dictates it."? Never! You sign it. You fulfill it. And I really don't care about the whole argument of, it's sports. A contract is a contract unless both sides agree to change it and as of now we haven't seen that.

I really like Trey and hope we do sign him for longer but he signed the extension which he thought was good at the time.

[reuben.ahmed]

(05-13-2025, 10:12 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Guy has started 78 games in the last 5 seasons (15.6 per year) with 70.5 sacks (14.1 per year) and you're going to offer him an incentive laiden contract?

Clown move. 

The weird part though is the team paying people for the past - or the future? 

It's like the Flacco wins the superbowl contract to never win again.

I can see a team trying to make up for the past lower pay (especially when structured in a contract as so).

How many more years do we think he will perform at that level? I feel like the Bengals may have offered him a 1 year and he wants more (3).

[reuben.ahmed]

(9 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: So much drama. JB just got 2 huge contracts for Chase and Higgins, now he should ask demand a trade and not show up to make a point.

Sorry, this is just stupid. Bengals would let him sit out, fine him and not pay him. In 2026, he is still a Bengal and accomplished nothing.

speaking of trey though, if he doesn't play, the contract year doesn't count and it pushes his free agency out another year (or it's at risk to do so).

how many games would he need to play in order for that to not be the case? i wonder if an "injury" gets to count...

but yeah I'm worried about our defense, I don't know if al golden can do what we need him to do (has to at least be middle of the league rank). we need to have a chip on his shoulder that he has to prove it wasn't just our personnel with lou.

the results will be in the W/L column

[Nicomo Cosca]

(9 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: So much drama. JB just got 2 huge contracts for Chase and Higgins, now he should ask demand a trade and not show up to make a point.

Sorry, this is just stupid. Bengals would let him sit out, fine him and not pay him. In 2026, he is still a Bengal and accomplished nothing.

So a typical offseason for the Cincinnati Bengals then.

[NUGDUKWE]

(3 hours ago)Mer Wrote: Sounds good Kevin. I, for one, understand you're talking about tagging him after this season. I'm of the belief that when you sign a contract, you fulfill the contract. How many players that have a down year are pounding the table to lower the contract money for the remaining years? Or," I need an extension with less money because my crappy play dictates it."? Never! You sign it. You fulfill it. And I really don't care about the whole argument of, it's sports. A contract is a contract unless both sides agree to change it and as of now we haven't seen that.

I really like Trey and hope we do sign him for longer but he signed the extension which he thought was good at the time.

We cut Cappa and others on the last year of they're deal as well as forced Moss and Stone to take pay cuts. Anymore the last year only exists for marginal players. The best want paid market value with guarantees and the worst get cut. 

[Sled21]

(Yesterday, 03:16 PM)pally Wrote: The Ravens just extended 31-year-old RB Derrick Henry 2 years $30 million with $25 million GTD

A RB who is 31 is a lot older in football years than a DE at 30

I would venture that King Henry is a one-off, and there are few, if any, other running backs that could get that money at his age.

[Luvnit2]

(1 hour ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: So a typical offseason for the Cincinnati Bengals fans then.

I fixed it for you.

[Sled21]

(9 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: So much drama. JB just got 2 huge contracts for Chase and Higgins, now he should ask demand a trade and not show up to make a point.

Sorry, this is just stupid. Bengals would let him sit out, fine him and not pay him. In 2026, he is still a Bengal and accomplished nothing.

Stop with the Burrow should just not show up crap. Those are wholly different scenarios. Everyone knew Chase would get paid. Tee played out his contract and then was tagged once. Hendrickson still has a year on his contract. Joe is not going to "Sit out" to make a point while Trey is still under contract. I don't want to sound like I'm trashing Trey, he has been one of my favorites, but he is acting very childish whining to the press about this situation. HE signed his contract extension he so badly wanted. If he wants to be mad about it, he should be mad at himself and his incompetent agent, and quit trashing the Bengals. Then he says things like he needs to take care of his family. Dude, you're a multi-millionaire, unless you just throw money away your family is taken care of. 

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(2 hours ago)reuben.ahmed Wrote: speaking of trey though, if he doesn't play, the contract year doesn't count and it pushes his free agency out another year (or it's at risk to do so).

how many games would he need to play in order for that to not be the case? i wonder if an "injury" gets to count...

but yeah I'm worried about our defense, I don't know if al golden can do what we need him to do (has to at least be middle of the league rank). we need to have a chip on his shoulder that he has to prove it wasn't just our personnel with lou.

the results will be in the W/L column

6 games to get an accrued season, and yes 6 games of being injured count so long as it was an injury from football (practice or whatnot).

[*rfaulk34*]

(2 hours ago)reuben.ahmed Wrote: The weird part though is the team paying people for the past - or the future? 

It's like the Flacco wins the superbowl contract to never win again.

I can see a team trying to make up for the past lower pay (especially when structured in a contract as so).

How many more years do we think he will perform at that level? I feel like the Bengals may have offered him a 1 year and he wants more (3).

It's a combination of a lot of things. Past performance, potential future performance + age + injury history. Every situation is different. Flacco was positioned perfectly to have the Ravens over a barrel. They were in a no win sitch and just had to bite the bullett cause you don't just let a SB winning QB walk away at that age (unless he's Trent Dilfer) which he's not. 

Trey's performance is likely to dip soon. That's why i've been saying pay him up front and give him the years, but with outs or at a lower salary to mitigate. Who knows...with the Chase and Tee contracts not being done the way most teams do them--low early numbers--maybe they're kind of hamstrung on what they can pay Trey in yrs 1 and 2.