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(7 hours ago)WeezyBengal Wrote: He seemed like a decent player based off of his PFF grading, but I agree...he has looked BAD so far. Wonder if the injury is still hampering him?
Either way, it would behoove this team to go out and try and get some more guard help. Could they explore a trade?
Every clip I’ve seen today has Burrow about to get blown up. So, the usual. “We like the guys we have in the building.”
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(7 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Speaking of guards…I continue to be unimpressed with Lucas Patrick. Some of the homers were really touting his pass protection when we signed him, but he is constantly getting beat in the a lot of the clips from camp. Just saw one from today of Slaton beating him for what would have been a sack in a game.
I just saw that as well and was going to say the exact same thing. He got beat instantly on some of his reps in the preseason game. Not great just playing two series and I am worried counting on him this season.
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(7 hours ago)pally Wrote:
If that was supposed to be a stunt, i'm not sure what #95 is doing other than trying to immitate a pinball.
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I'm not sure Lucas Patrick is the answer at RG. Bengals are in a very precarious position.
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(7 hours ago)pally Wrote: Patrick and Stewart were the combatants
rules to follow
Shemar: do not hit Joe
Lucas: do not let Shemar hit Joe
Ted calls out both sides
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(7 hours ago)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Speaking of guards…I continue to be unimpressed with Lucas Patrick. Some of the homers were really touting his pass protection when we signed him, but he is constantly getting beat in the a lot of the clips from camp. Just saw one from today of Slaton beating him for what would have been a sack in a game.
(7 hours ago)WeezyBengal Wrote: He seemed like a decent player based off of his PFF grading, but I agree...he has looked BAD so far. Wonder if the injury is still hampering him?
Either way, it would behoove this team to go out and try and get some more guard help. Could they explore a trade?
Remember that Patrick's PFF grades from the past few years were not while he was playing RG.
He hasn't played significant RG snaps since 2020.
2024 - 64.6 overall grade (60.3 pass block)...474 snaps at LG, 88 at C
2023 - 50.5 overall grade (40.6 pass block)...953 snaps at C
2022 - 55.9 overall grade (30.8 pass block)...154 snaps at LG, 10 at C, 105 at RG
2021 - 57.2 overall grade (67.3 pass block)...57 snaps at LG, 822 at C, 32 at RG
2020 - 64.8 overall grade (61.5 pass block)...3 snaps at LT, 220 at LG, 8 at C, 708 at RG
So he's really not been that impressive in general, but he also hasn't played much RG for like 5 years.
Dude potentially just isn't a good fit at RG, especially for what the Bengals are trying to run.
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(7 hours ago)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Every clip I’ve seen today has Burrow about to get blown up. So, the usual. “We like the guys we have in the building.”
And that from the Dline that couldn't sniff the Eagles QB's.
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(6 hours ago)pally Wrote:
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(5 hours ago)ochocincos Wrote: Remember that Patrick's PFF grades from the past few years were not while he was playing RG.
He hasn't played significant RG snaps since 2020.
2024 - 64.6 overall grade (60.3 pass block)...474 snaps at LG, 88 at C
2023 - 50.5 overall grade (40.6 pass block)...953 snaps at C
2022 - 55.9 overall grade (30.8 pass block)...154 snaps at LG, 10 at C, 105 at RG
2021 - 57.2 overall grade (67.3 pass block)...57 snaps at LG, 822 at C, 32 at RG
2020 - 64.8 overall grade (61.5 pass block)...3 snaps at LT, 220 at LG, 8 at C, 708 at RG
So he's really not been that impressive in general, but he also hasn't played much RG for like 5 years.
Dude potentially just isn't a good fit at RG, especially for what the Bengals are trying to run.
Pretty sure that can't be true, Ocho. I have it on good authority that he has the greatest snaps-to-sacks-allowed ratio, so he's not just a starting quality player, but a great starter. 
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(5 hours ago)pally Wrote:
" Cordell Volson took snaps at center on second team"
Excuse me, what now?
Hopefully, this is a sign that they're looking for some way ANY way that Volson can contribute before deciding to just cut his ass.
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(8 hours ago)Sled21 Wrote: I think Burrow would not be happy because he communicates with Ted pre-snap about what he's seeing on defense. Lee can't replace that experience.
And Ted can not do that from the RG spot? I think he could do it just as easily from RG as the center spot.
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(5 hours ago)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Pretty sure that can't be true, Ocho. I have it on good authority that he has the greatest snaps-to-sacks-allowed ratio, so he's not just a starting quality player, but a great starter.
Maybe I missed it, I have not seen 1 post saying Patrick was close to being an all pro. I believe some fell he will be much better than 2024 Cappa, but he sucked so low bar.
I like Patrick and no RG is showing major weakness in camp. The OL coach and ZT can lobby for us to go get a better RG, we have the money, but will the FO bring in Risner (but think he is a LG also) or is there a better RG option available.
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(5 hours ago)PhilHos Wrote: "Cordell Volson took snaps at center on second team"
Excuse me, what now?
Hopefully, this is a sign that they're looking for some way ANY way that Volson can contribute before deciding to just cut his ass.
Weird. Seems we are having major issues at RG, why not try him at RG?
This also scares me as we have 4 centers on the roster, injuries maybe as Lee and our rookie may not be practicing yet.
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(5 hours ago)PhilHos Wrote: "Cordell Volson took snaps at center on second team"
Excuse me, what now?
Hopefully, this is a sign that they're looking for some way ANY way that Volson can contribute before deciding to just cut his ass.
His big ass in the middle for goal line and situational short yardage might not be a bad thing.
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(4 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Maybe I missed it, I have not seen 1 post saying Patrick was close to being an all pro. I believe some fell he will be much better than 2024 Cappa, but he sucked so low bar.
I like Patrick and no RG is showing major weakness in camp. The OL coach and ZT can lobby for us to go get a better RG, we have the money, but will the FO bring in Risner (but think he is a LG also) or is there a better RG option available.
Risner played RG last year for Minny and was a top 20 G in pass pro. Not as strong a run blocker.
Aa for Volson playing C. Lee is out. McLauglin has all of one practice back from injury. Patrick has C experience, but is starting at RG. Raym has been the only available C backup for most of camp. So I don't mind giving Volson a look. Is he better than Raym? Lee?
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(5 hours ago)BengalsBong Wrote: And Ted can not do that from the RG spot? I think he could do it just as easily from RG as the center spot.
i would not move Ted, he has been under center with Burrow for 3 years, we have had good snaps and he has played solid, moving him to guard might actually weaken the line, that would be an adjustment for him plus whoever we put in at center would be weaker
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(4 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Weird. Seems we are having major issues at RG, why not try him at RG?
This also scares me as we have 4 centers on the roster, injuries maybe as Lee and our rookie may not be practicing yet.
It's likely more of an evaluation as to whether he can be the emergency C on game days. That could potentially let them dress only 7-8 OL and dress an extra LB, DB, or RB for ST's.
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(4 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Weird. Seems we are having major issues at RG, why not try him at RG?
This also scares me as we have 4 centers on the roster, injuries maybe as Lee and our rookie may not be practicing yet.
Because he has terrible balance and awareness. A position change isn't going to fix that.
As much as i would be hesitant to play 2 rookies at guard, i'd at least look at putting Jalen Rivers there to see if he has anything. Granted, i can't say i've seen too much of his tape this preseason, but i do recall some kudos and positivity being thrown his way at times. Plus, Fairchild looks to be a pretty heady guy and doesn't feel (at the moment) like your typical rookie.
Just found the "five takeaways" that mentioned that Rivers was playing RG with the 2nd unit for the 2nd day in a row and Greg Cosell said that he liked him (this was from Sunday).
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