(06-16-2025, 01:55 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Dunlap wasn't a 3rd string player until he publicly raised a stink and only was able to get traded after making enough of a fuss? (And then won a SB)

We got an indoor practice facility after the media started piling up on how absurd it was that Joe Burrow had to get on a bus and go to UC to prepare for the SB.

Tee didn't get franchise tagged twice while being relatively quiet before changing tactics and moving to Chase's agent to publicly strongarm the Bengals into signing him or losing them both while getting Burrow to also be loud in the media for him?

Chase didn't publicly talk about how he wasn't being offered enough money, publicly take out insurance on himself, and then say he wasn't going to accept breaking Jefferson's amount "by a little"?

It was only after those Player Review grades came out and became public that some of the most simple quality of life changes came for the Bengals. Again, they didn't improve for decades until public pressure.

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All in the previous 5 years. They couldn't get the Bengals to change their minds until they started getting loud and public. Same as all the times in the past.

(06-16-2025, 01:55 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Dunlap wasn't a 3rd string player until he publicly raised a stink and only was able to get traded after making enough of a fuss? (And then won a SB)

We got an indoor practice facility after the media started piling up on how absurd it was that Joe Burrow had to get on a bus and go to UC to prepare for the SB.

Tee didn't get franchise tagged twice while being relatively quiet before changing tactics and moving to Chase's agent to publicly strongarm the Bengals into signing him or losing them both while getting Burrow to also be loud in the media for him?

Chase didn't publicly talk about how he wasn't being offered enough money, publicly take out insurance on himself, and then say he wasn't going to accept breaking Jefferson's amount "by a little"?

It was only after those Player Review grades came out and became public that some of the most simple quality of life changes came for the Bengals. Again, they didn't improve for decades until public pressure.

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All in the previous 5 years. They couldn't get the Bengals to change their minds until they started getting loud and public. Same as all the times in the past.

(06-16-2025, 02:23 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: I can promise you this....bengals decisions on players and facilities are not influenced by outside noise..fans like you...as passionate as you are somehow try to keep the past alive and fail to see progressive changes...you may think that the public..sportswriters etc are " strongarming"..you are incorrect..but you have fun looking for negatives..I choose otherwise..We are blessed to have an NFL franchise regardless of how imperfect it may be...and if burrow and company stay healthy this going to be a great year

(06-16-2025, 02:35 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Mike Brown is 89 years old, when was the last time anyone successfully made and old dude change his mind about anything?