04-11-2024, 05:26 PM
(04-11-2024, 01:41 PM)GMDino Wrote: So you meant Hamas' actions...not they actually killed them themselves.
Got it.
Hamas caused their deaths. They are responsible for their murder. it's not that complicated.
Got it?
(04-11-2024, 03:31 PM)Dill Wrote: Well first he was speaking to Hamas' claim that airstrikes killed some hostages, not Hamas themselves.
Even if an airstrike caused their death the person responsible for their being killed is Hamas.
Quote:Now he means if Israeli snipers killed a couple, shirtless with a white flag, then Hamas really killed them.
The snipers would not have killed them if Hamas had not kidnapped them.
Unless you assertion is that the snipers killed them intentionally, knowing who they were, and I would not put that past you at all, then yes. Hamas is responsible for killed them.
Quote:Same if Israel bombed a house where hostages were kept, it's Hamas' fault.
Absolutely. How would it not be?
Quote:People who don't "mitigate" Hamas' actions know,
the occupiers bear no responsibility--"facts are facts."
The "occupiers"?!? Gaza was not occupied by anyone but the Palestinians and their elected Hamas overlords until Hamas declared war on Israel with a cowardly sneak attack on civilians.
Quote:Not sure if the families of the hostages agree, though. Learn to deal with this special moral clarity, Dino.
Oh, I'm quite certain they all hold Hamas ultimately responsible. They may take issue with Netanyahu's attempts to retrieve their loved ones, but I can rather safely say none of them hold anyone more responsible for their loved one's deaths than the animals in Hamas.
Say a person takes a hostage. A police sniper is given the order to take out the hostage taker. The shot is fired, hits the hostage taker, but a fragment of the bullet splits off and kills the hostage. Did the sniper kill the hostage or did the hostage taker cause their death?
Also, good to see your buddy finds the deaths of hostages a source of amusement though. This thread has really shed a light on what passes for the values of some of our left leaning posters. Rather abhorrent.
