Israel/Hamas War Superthread

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(03-20-2024, 06:25 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Quote:4. I have said that Hamas needs to be destroyed if a two-state solution is going to work. Do you consider that statement "support for Hamas"?
Again, show your work. What is your standard for determining whether a statement about the Gaza war supports Hamas or not?

Actually, I really haven't, as I do not think a two state solution will ever work.  I do think Hamas needs to be destroyed, and it would be simple to do so if Iran and other nations such as Qatar stopped actively funding/assisting them.  But the two state solution is a non-starter at the end of the day.  Neither party really wants it and the respective religious hardliners will never allow it.  Could there be peace?  Yes, and I think it was inching in that direction with several Arab nations moving towards normalizing relations with Israel.  Which is exactly what Iran and their terrorist lackeys in Hamas wanted to stop when they invaded Israel on 10/07/23.  They got a lot of what they wanted since, and they're relying on people like you in the West to get them the rest of their wish list.  And they are willing to sacrifice every single civilian in Gaza to achieve that goal.  Which is why they are definitively, and demonstrably, worse than Israel in every regard and no equation of substance can reasonably be drawn.  Clear enough for you?

No.  

There were two questions: "Do you consider my statement support for Hamas?"  and 
                                       "What is your standard for determining whether a statement supports Hamas or not? 

If you are calling me a Hamas supporter then you must have some criteria for determining that. Did you answer these questions?

No, you answered a different question--"What's your view on the two-state solution?"--which was not asked. That's deflection.

Yet, without answering the criteria question directly, you continued to employ them to characterize me as someone helping Hamas get "the rest of their wish list." (Were I to adopt your accusatory tactics, I would be saying that Israel relies on people like you in the US to legitimate its occupation and the ongoing, daily dispossession of Palestinians from their land. )

The underlined so misunderstands the current situation in the Mideast that it presents one cause of the current war as a prospect for peace. 
Addressing that misunderstanding should be the job of a different post, or even a thread on the subject.

Let's just stamp this check "returned" and move on to another.