Israel/Hamas War Superthread

[Dill]

(02-17-2024, 10:56 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Yes, they are absolutely deciding to stay. If 1 million people flee an area and you stay there and die, you chose that. You're acting like Israeli soldiers have been commanded to mow down every Palestinian on sight or that there's absolutely no place to go where they can increase their chances of survival.

Again, it sounds like you are speaking as if the borders of the Strip are open. Or are you simply referring to Gaza City? Fleeing to Rafah from Gaza City certainly increases one's chances of survival, which are already pretty low.  So it would be stupid to stay and those who can flee Gaza City have "chosen" to do so. But they are still contained in the Gaza Strip. How do you flee that? The Egyptians will turn you back. The Israelis will likely shoot you. And now Rafah must be "cleared" as well. Where will the refugees from Gaza City staying with the refugees of Rafah go next?

The barriers which contain the population of Gaza Strip are not natural formations like a mountain range or a river too wide to swim. They are wholly human constructions, manned by humans who have, by the way, made a practice of "mowing down" Palestinians who attempt to break out.

You keep saying though that people are "choosing" to stay, like there is no force involved. Or if you recognize the force, you still appear to blame the victims, not the people applying the force, who created the barriers around Gaza and maintain them.  This is sort of like blaming a battered wife for not leaving her husband--except in this case the doors and windows are locked an boarded to prevent her leaving without permission. If she attempts to kill her husband, you are not interested in her reasons why--the history of the conflict--only that she has declared homicidal intention and acted on it.

And you argue that people always have a choice and should fight back against their oppressors, even if all they have is a pitchfork. 
That is just what Hamas thinks it is doing, defending against genocide.