Interesting Burrow Comments...

[Whatever]

(7 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: So it'a a shootout or a low scoring game?

That isn't a great philosophy. But it does seem accurate with this team, and why we really don't see many blowouts. or I guess as many as you'd think with an "elite" offense.

Sounds like we'll forever be stressed and on edge in the 4th quarter. 

He didn't say it was either/or.  

[*rfaulk34*]

(8 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: Uhhh...reacting when the defense adjusts and making them do something different is the exact same thing as adjusting your offense to what the defense is doing....

The only way you don't have to adjust to what the defense is doing is if such a wide talent disparity exists that you can just do whatever, but such talent gaps don't exist at the NFL level.  If you're like Ohio State in a tune up game against some MAC school, then yeah.

But all Joe is saying is that if it's a close, low scoring game where points are at a premium, he's going to be more conservative in his  decisions because a turnover can be a backbreaker.  If it's a high scoring game, he's gonna take more chances because there's more pressure to get points on every drive.

Adjusting to a defense isn't the same as a passive mindset. If they go into the game "let's try this...let's try that..." to see how the defense reacts, that's lame. There are obvious adjustments by both sides throughout the game. 

I'd prefer an offense that has the mindset to put pressure on a defense, not feel them out and react to what they're doing. It's obviously a fine line, i just don't like the line Zac is drawing. 

Being conservative, keeping it close, then hoping to close at the end is a Marv (and sure, many others) staple and i've never been a fan of it. 

Gimme Wyche all day. 

[Soonerpeace]

(8 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: Uhhh...reacting when the defense adjusts and making them do something different is the exact same thing as adjusting your offense to what the defense is doing....

The only way you don't have to adjust to what the defense is doing is if such a wide talent disparity exists that you can just do whatever, but such talent gaps don't exist at the NFL level.  If you're like Ohio State in a tune up game against some MAC school, then yeah.

But all Joe is saying is that if it's a close, low scoring game where points are at a premium, he's going to be more conservative in his  decisions because a turnover can be a backbreaker.  If it's a high scoring game, he's gonna take more chances because there's more pressure to get points on every drive.

Found this…
It's not that uniform across the board. Some teams do. Some may script just the first few, some may script more. It's not a "You're in the NFL, so you need to do this" kind of thing. Scripting the first 15 plays was more of a thing with the classic West Coast teams, such as the 80's/90's 49ers and the 90's Packers. I really don't think teams are scripting that far ahead anymore, but for the most part yes, they do script their first series or sequences of calls.

WHY

It ensures you use everything you practiced; gives you a chance for the best return on investment in practice installs.
Plays are usually called in sequences, series, or progressions; 2-4 plays that are designed to compliment or work together to stress the defense in a particular way. Scripting one for multiple rom each progression or sequence allows you to see how the defense is going to play each one.
Overall, scripting plays allows you to see how the defense is going to respond, which then prompts your future calls once you're off the script.
Gives players and QB's a heads up to mentally prepare before taking the field. Knowing what plays they'll run first allows them to relax once they get out there, because they have already mentally prepped for the first few plays. As the script goes, they, along with the coaches can see together how the game and play-calling may develop.
Having a script can help your play caller get into the flow or rhythm. Play calling is not as easy as it looks, and you have to know what play you want and begin sending it in almost immediately after the last play ends. I'm an OC for the team I coach and call the offense...one of the hardest things I've had to grow or get better at is calling plays quickly. By scripting some plays, it allows that play calling to be easy and you can get them in quickly without any stress. I don't script the first 15, but I always try to have at least the first three ready before the opening kickoff.
Choosing the Script (again, it's not always 15)

It's all based on scouting the opponent and looking at the strengths/weaknesses of your offenses. You have your core system + the auxiliary stuff your team is doing well. You search for ways to incorporate those schemes by scouting your opponent, and tweak the game-plan further by adjusting to take advantage of the opponent's defense. A combination of these factors leads you to which plays you want to run first.

It's common for an initial script to feature formations or plays that answer certain questions such as...

How do they line up against trips? Twins? Double tight? Empty?
How is the secondary rotating/moving with motion?
Are they moving DB's around to cover our best receivers, or are they staying in their spots?
What fronts and stunts are they gonna use against which of our formations?
What coverages are we going to get when we run certain formations or specific releases by our WR's?
Down and Distance

The script is usually designed with downs in mind; if they're going to script the first three plays and not bend no matter what, the third play will likely be a pass play, or a high percentage 3rd down play for them. The script doesn't have to be that fixed either. They may have the "first X" number of play calls, but change the order around in which they're called based on down and distance. QB's may be given the ability to audible too.

There may be occasions that do throw the script completely off; an early injury, and obvious weakness in the defense they didn't show in previous film/scouting content, some other reason, etc.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(8 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: Uhhh...reacting when the defense adjusts and making them do something different is the exact same thing as adjusting your offense to what the defense is doing....

The only way you don't have to adjust to what the defense is doing is if such a wide talent disparity exists that you can just do whatever, but such talent gaps don't exist at the NFL level.  If you're like Ohio State in a tune up game against some MAC school, then yeah.

But all Joe is saying is that if it's a close, low scoring game where points are at a premium, he's going to be more conservative in his  decisions because a turnover can be a backbreaker.  If it's a high scoring game, he's gonna take more chances because there's more pressure to get points on every drive.

Was waiting till someone got to it. Spot on, the tough games in the NFL are the ones where points are at a premium and you cannot afford a
turnover. Let's not act like any Offense is so elite in the NFL that they can overcome turnovers like the Lions did in one game last season.

That was 1 out of a million games to turn the ball over that many times and somehow come out with a win. We are in the AFC North and if we
want to sweep the Division for once with Burrow this is the mentality for Burrow to have. Our Defense just needs to keep the Offenses from 
scoring 38+ points like they couldn't do last year under Lou.

(7 hours ago)jj22 Wrote: So it'a a shootout or a low scoring game?

That isn't a great philosophy. But it does seem accurate with this team, and why we really don't see many blowouts. or I guess as many as you'd think with an "elite" offense.

Sounds like we'll forever be stressed and on edge in the 4th quarter. 

It is the AFC North and the Playoffs what Burrow is obviously talking about. More often than not Joe Burrow and this Offense are going to be 
taking it to any Defense that has weaknesses that our strengths can take advantage of.

[jj22]

(6 hours ago)Whatever Wrote: He didn't say it was either/or.  

he only mentioned two scenarios .... I must have misted a 3rd. 

[jj22]

(2 hours ago)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: It is the AFC North and the Playoffs what Burrow is obviously talking about. More often than not Joe Burrow and this Offense are going to be 
taking it to any Defense that has weaknesses that our strengths can take advantage of.

It certainly isn't the AFCN as the defenses in the North haven't been great for years. 

I think this is exactly why nearly every game comes down to the wire. Regular season and playoffs.