What Would Your Draft Have Been?

[Soonerpeace]

(Yesterday, 01:39 PM)kevin Wrote: Lou was on the same page with Zac.  Zac wanted Bengals D to have 5 to 6 DB's on the field 80 % of the game, and Lou did.   However Golden who had one of the top coaching jobs in football at Notre Dame is not coming to Cincinnati to play that Zac and Lou defense.  Golden has already said he will have 3 and 4 LB's on the field more.  So instead of this Zac and Lou 5 to 6 DB's on the field 80 % of the game,  Golden is going to have more 3 and 4 LB packages. Sometimes Golden will have the extra DB's on the field, but not 80 % of the game.  Look for Golden to go back to more LB's in more of the game.  Golden said he would.  I think this was agreed on when Golden left the top coaching job at Notre Dame to come to Cincy, that he could run his defense, not the Zac and Lou all DB's all the time defense.  

So for Golden to run his more Linebackers defense, he needed more Front Seven players, because the Zac and Lou didn't have enough of what Golden needs.  The first 2 picks taken, Golden says they fit well with his defense he will run.  They are front 7 players who Golden says can play in a lot of different D packages, and they can shift on the field keeping Golden from caught in the wrong defense as offenses try to do.  Golden says the first 2 players drafted can play in many D packages, and that is what Golden says he needed to have more Front 7 players on the field.  

I like what Golden coming from Notre Dame is saying.  Bengals will not be mostly DB's in a Prevent D as Zac and Lou did most of game.  Golden is going to have more Front 7 D Line and LBs in Bengals games, being more aggressive in the trenches.  Not sitting back in prevent pass coverage all game as Bengals have been doing and losing.  

Zac has said all along that he like 5 to 6 DB's on the field most of game and that is what Lou did.  Golden coming from Notre Dame says that is not what he is going to do. Golden is going to get more Linebackers into Bengals games.  This is why Front 7 players were drafted early.  Get ready for a whole new and different approach to defense on Bengals, and it is needed.  What Bengals were doing on defense wasn't working.  I welcome Golden coming from Notre Dame and shaking things up on Defense.  

On Offense, they have Burrow, Chase and Higgins long term now.  The offense is fine.  The defense was lousy, but Golden from Notre Dame is talking a whole different defense with less extra DB prevent D and more Linebackers. Golden has said sometimes 4 Linebackers on the field.  We were use to Zac and Lou playing only 2 Linebackers.   Get ready for more 3 LB and 4 LB sets out of Golden, but able to go to the Nickle and Dime D also.  This is indeed what Golden has said. Under him the Bengals will use more LB's, as many as 4 LBs sometimes.  Golden brings a whole new era on Bengals D, and it was needed, because Zac and Lou in the Prevent most of the game wasn't working. 

GO BENGALS. ....and people will like these picks more once they see what Golden is doing on defense. More of a Front 7 attack. 

PS : I still do not know why a coach would leave a top job at Notre Dane to come to Bengals, even if he once coached at Bengals.  Still, I think Bengals Fans got lucky that he did.  Golden coming here and the D players drafted is the shake up this way too passive defense needed.  Let's get back to winning games.  Coach Golden saying there will be times he has 4 Linebackers on the field, that is different from anything under Zac and Lou. However Bengals didn't have 4 LB's to put on the field.  So in the draft Front 7 Players were added.  I also like what Coach Golden said after the draft when asked if these picks can tackle.  Golden said most of The Bengals haven't been able to tackle. Coach Golden said that Tackling is something Veterans and Draft Picks are going to get drilled in, because it will be Coach Goldens top priority from Day One. 

You know, if we did have a top defense to go with Burrow, Chase and Higgins, Bengals could be as good a Super Bowl team as Eagles just were.  So I'm all for whatever shake up's Golden has to do. even if it confuses Mike Brown Family, Zac Taylor and Fans at first.  Much like that movie 12 O' Clock High or Patton, when you are losing and things aren't right, somebody has to come in and shake things up to fix the problems.  Coach Golden could just be that person. I do not question Coach Golden or the Draft Picks he likes, I only know major changes were needed to the lousy Bengals defense.  So Go Coach Golden and get this Defense and team winning.  

     

Goldens’s family lives down the street from Zac and Sara. Never moved to South Bend. Zac was on the same page with his DC as he will be with his new DC. But Zac doesn’t do defense he leaves that up to them. Don’t get me wrong sure he’s the head coach but it was Lou’s defense as it will be Golden’s defense. The personnel and development was the big issue.

[BengalYankee]

The guy on the left.  

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(Yesterday, 02:30 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I'll be interested to see how the 4 LBs would be used.
Would it be 4 in coverage, or would the 4th really primarily just be used for attacking the LOS?
I'm also interested to know what the 3 DL would be in the case they had 4 LBs out there.
We know Ossai played LB a lot in college, so I could see him getting kicked back there at times.

I wouldn't be opposed to seeing the team run predominant 3-4 looks either.
I've always liked 3-4 defenses.

Ossai really fits Al Golden's Defense. We sure won't be using all stack Backers in the 4 LB looks as Synric says. Have to have LB's that are good at 
multiple things and add different things to certain packages. Also, Stewart has the athleticism to drop back into coverage at times. I know Sam used
to do this for us, but he was clearly slowing down the last 3 years or so and had the injury problems on top of it.

I didn't like the Ends dropping into coverage because it didn't work, but with a heat seeking missile like Knight in there he could blitz while SS drops
back and it could be scary for Offenses to deal with.

[Gdale_Bengal]

The first 3 picks going

Harmon
Ratledge
Fairchild

Would have SIGNIFICANTLY helped this team.

[SouthernFan]

This is an impossible and pointless exercise. As soon a pick is changed, potentially every subsequent pick is impacted as a different pool of players would be available to each team. So outcomes are unknowable.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(Yesterday, 02:26 PM)kevin Wrote: Not just 3 LB's.  Golden is talking sometimes 4 LB's.   Of course, Bengals didn't have enough Front 7, so in the Draft they added more Front 7.   Golden says sometimes 4 LB's.  This is going to be a whole new defense, and as bad as Bengals were on defense, I welcome the change.   With Burrow, Chase and Higgins locked in, let's get back to The Super Bowl. 

So we agree Ochocinco that we hope the Defense gets better.   You take Burrow, Chase and Higgins and build a good Defense here, and going back to the Super Bowl is very possible, only this time, the Bengals finally win a Super Bowl. 

The 4 LBs will almost certainly mean a 3 DT front with 4 DBs. He is trading a DL for a LB. But it certainly won't be 5 DBs with 4 LBs. Nor 5 DBs With 3 LBS. 

if we are legit gonna play 4 LBs, and Golden is not counting a DE amongst them (Ossai, Trey), then keeping Pratt is a real option. And we probably keep 6 LBs. 5 at least. Wilson, Knight, Burks, and Carrer are locks. Pratt is miles better than Heyward or Njongmeta. 

If we are not gonna use his cap savings on a FA (G, S, DT, CB, WR3, 2 way TE), and it sure looks like we are not gonna, then what is the point of cutting him? Rollover for 2026? 

[Luvnit2]

Stewart - Best true DE in the draft

Knight - 3rd best LB in the draft and other 2 taken

Fairchild - I like him better than Rutledge and I got him a round later

Carter - 4th best LB in the draft, a steal in round 4

Rivers - He will becoe a starter in next 3 years if he stays healthy

Brooks - I had a 4th round grade and felt we needed a young back for the future

It is also the only draft I will be able to honestly evalauate how these guys fit in our system and fit in Al's scheme which my hunch is going to be different from Lou's scheme.

[Luvnit2]

(Yesterday, 06:43 PM)Gdale_Bengal Wrote: The first 3 picks going

Harmon
Ratledge
Fairchild

Would have SIGNIFICANTLY helped this team.

I agree may have helped the offense assuming the 2 guards could start immediately and been good or better (not Volson good).

But how did this help the defense? Harmon is DT #5 coming in on the depth chart.

[Gdale_Bengal]

(11 hours ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: I agree may have helped the offense assuming the 2 guards could start immediately and been good or better (not Volson good).

But how did this help the defense? Harmon is DT #5 coming in on the depth chart.

Harmon is already better than the majority of our DTs right now. He’s huge and long and will eat OL freeing up linebackers and give Hendrickson 1 on 1s. Out run defense will improve, and if he can, pressure up the middle with Hill will help DBs make plays from forcing the QB out of the pocket and uncomfortable.

I dunno. I was really high on the guy. I hate that he is a steeler.