Day 3!

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(04-27-2025, 12:16 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Who said you weren't allowed. I did clarify that those that were drafted who were at least good players, who aren't here anymore, is a different FO argument. I counted them though since the whole point of this exercise is...drafting. 

It's not out of the question to take 2 top 5 picks and set them aside so you can evaluate 55 other picks to determine if their drafting is good or bad. 

If you assigned points for each player and where they were drafted, including them would obviously raise their grade but it wouldn't move the needle enough to conclude that they're bad at drafting college players. Specifically, anyone outside the top 10 and especially, anyone after the 3rd round. 

Just for shitz and giggz i went and looked at Philly, KC, the Bills and 49ers drafts as a comparison. I looked at players drafted 4th round or later and their wAV (weighted career approximate value). It's a subjective thing but it can be used as a comparison. 

The Eagles have 10 guys with a wAV in double digits (10+). Including guys like;
Josh Sweat (6th rd)
Jordan Mailata (7th rd)

The Chiefs have 5 guys. Including guys like;
Trey Smith (6th rd)
L'Jarius Sneed (4th rd)
Nick Allegretti (7th rd)

The Bills have 8 guys. Including guys like;
Taron Johnson (4th rd)
Wyatt Teller (5th rd)
Matt Milano (5th rd)

The 49ers have 13 guys. Including guys like;
Jauan Jennings (7th rd)
Dre Greenlaw (5th rd)
George Kittle (5th rd)

The Bengals have 3.
Evan McPherson (5th rd) kicker
Michael Jordan (4th rd) started more career games for teams not named Bengals and almost got the franchise QB killed.
Jake Elliott (5th rd) kicker that never even suited up for the team in a regular season game.

More games by you. If you think they Bengals are one of the worst, then compare them to the worst teams by records, not the best.

I am not even arguing Bengals have drafted well, they have not overall. But your goal to show they are the worst can't be measured by comparing them to the best.

I you are going to remove top 5 picks, then also remove round and 6 and 7 against the worst and then see where it stands. You may be 100% correct, Tonin is the worst in the NFL, but you have shown zero proof to back up that claim. You have proven there ae not the best, we know that already.