Congrats Tomlin

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(01-13-2023, 12:45 PM)BengalYankee Wrote: Ben Roethlisberger had two losing seasons.




2006 7-8

2019 0-2




Tomlin losing seasons

You are aware that Tomlin was not the Steelers HC in 2006?  Or is your point that Ben is capable of having a losing season,  just like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees (and Tom Brady this year)?  Also, using his 0-2 year is just silly, do you really think the Steelers don't do better than 8-8 that year (their actual record) if Ben doesn't get hurt?  Because that would be an even sillier argument.

Quote:Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote:

Quote:Possibly the lamest response in smack talk history, and I'm including the Sloppy and Dabo years in this.


Ok, it seems like you are blind and d***.

Why are you getting upset because someone has a different opinion that you do?

Quote:I am through conversing with you on this topic. You make a stupid comment about how Tomlin's only reason that he never had a losing season and I brought up two years where Pig Ben was under .500, Thus Tomlin had to overcome Pig Ben's short comings. Now you are bitching because I gave you facts and instead of disputing the facts you respond with an ignorant comment.

This is what I get for defending a F' Squealer  coach.  

I never said Ben was the only reason Tomlin's never had a losing season.  What I did say, correctly I might add, is that Tomlin had a franchise QB on his team for his entire career sans this year.  What other coach can say that?  Bill Belichick's first season in NE they went 5-11.  The next year Tom Brady played under center and they didn't have a losing season from that point until 2020, the first year without Brady since 2001.  Is this just a coincidence?  You've already acknowledged that BB is an elite coach, but he's had two losing seasons out of three since Brady left town.

A good coach can overcome a lot, but bad QB play is not one of them.  A bad coach can screw up a lot, but having a franchise QB can really bail them out (see Barry Switzer among others).  The NFL is a QB driven league, having a HoF caliber signal caller can cover up a lot of blemishes.  Tomlin was fortunate that Pickett worked out as well as he has, thus far.  He's not HoF caliber (yet and he never may be), but I think he's demonstrated that he is a good QB at the NFL level.  Next year will really tell us where he's at and going to be.

You can make a lot of arguments about why Tomlin is better than I think he is, but this argument, that having a HoF QB didn't make a major difference for him and his streak, is a very poor one.  If you can put your anger aside and counter with a better argument I'd be happy to hear it.