Congrats Tomlin

[Sociopathicsteelerfan]

(01-11-2023, 04:14 AM)BengalYankee Wrote: Not just the NFL, how many head coaches/managers have gone 16 years in a row and NEVER had a losing season in any sport?

The same number who've had a franchise QB their entire HC career with the exception of this season.

Quote:While I must say that my two favorite teams or the Bengals and anyone[except for this year against the Ravens] playing against your Stealer squad.
That said I have high respect for Tomlin for being a GREAT coach. 

Cool, if you think Tomlin is a great coach then more power to you.  I don't share that view.

Quote:Who in the current NFL is a Great coach?
Belicheat = Yes, but he has not won a SB without Brady.
Andy Reid = Yes, but he is 1-1 in the SB, sounds familiar.

Was Gruden a Great coach? Some say so as he was a $100 million dollar coach, but the same argument about him using Dungy's players, but Dungy's last year was not 8-8.  Was Sean Payton? One SB win in 16 years, sounds familiar. Rumor is he will be worth millions as a HC. Would Tomlin if he left coaching for a few years? 

There was a time I could have rattled off a list of coaches.  I follow the NFL, outside of the Steelers, so casually now I doubt I could name more than ten.  That being said, a dearth of "great" coaches doesn't make Tomlin one by default.  If everyone in the class got a B grade or lower, that doesn't make the B students A students by default.

Quote:Tomlin hater's will say he used Cowher's team to win a SB. BS!!! The Stealers were on a decline with Cowher going 8-8 his last year. Cowher was smart enough to leave a sinking ship. The year the Stealer's "won" the SB was by injuring Carson Palmer in the first round, getting lucky with a shoe string tackle by Pig Ben, and biased referees in the Championship. That team was not a Great team, they did what they had to do to get by. They came in 2nd place in their division.

I always get a wry chuckle out of the Bengals fans who think they would have won the SB the year Carson got hurt.  I know it's a soothing balm on your gestalt ego for being a franchise mired largely in epic failure.  Cowher was not a "great" coach either, and in fact shared many of Tomlin's weaknesses.  But to say a roster loaded with talent and future HOF'ers was "on the decline" is just silly.

Quote:Why does anyone not say John Harbaugh inherited Brian Billick's SB team? 

I'm sure some do.  I know for damn sure that many say Gruden won a SB with Dungy's team in Tampa.  

Quote:So I ask again, who is a Great current NFL coach?

As I said above, I don't really know, nor does it matter.  I can say, very comfortably, that Tomlin is not a "great coach".  He's good, he has some definite strengths, but he's also got some glaring weaknesses that he is never going to grow out of.

 

Quote:P.S. You guys don’t deserve Tomlin. I do hope he quits or gets fired and then I will sit back and see your team go sub-par .500 year after year.

Can’t wait.

Oh, he'll never be fired, so put the popcorn on hold.  Realistic Steelers fans know two things, Tomlin is a good, not great coach and the Steelers will never fire him.  I'll close by again stating you're absolutely entitled to your opinion, I just don't agree with it.