The Raiders Are Shopping Mayer!

[*rfaulk34*]

If they can get him for a mid/lower round draft pick, do it. He has some athleticism and he looks like a load to bring down. 

[BFritz21]

(03-02-2025, 03:52 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: If they can get him for a mid/lower round draft pick, do it. He has some athleticism and he looks like a load to bring down. 

Exactly. And he's athletic as hell, as well as smart.

CincyJungle mentioned it as a possibility yesterday and I think the idea could pick up steam.

Sports Illustrated also thinks it's a good idea for a fifth round pick, and even Yahoo and other sites are saying it's a good move.

And about drafting Bowers, the value was just too good for the Raiders to pass up, but the potential value of bringing Mayer home is too good to pass up.

I'm excited about this because I think he'd help Burrow win a Super Bowl!

[XenoMorph]

(03-01-2025, 01:09 AM)CJD Wrote: The most I'd give up for Mayer is a 6th rounder.

He has been in the league for 2 years and has done nothing, has already lost his starting job, has already left the team for personal reasons. When playing, he has not been dynamic or a game changer.

Raider need to keep him, have an actual productive season, and then trade him in 2026. Because they'd be selling at an all time low right now.

maybe Burton? lol

[*ochocincos*]

(03-01-2025, 12:18 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: The Raiders are trying to get rid of Mayer!


He hasn't had the chance to really break out because Bower came in after his rookie year but he'd kill it with Burrow throwing him the ball!

It would also open up our draft a lot!

Trade them Higgins for Mayer and a 4th or 5th rounder.

Lucky for us he didn't do well for them but I think he could be really good with us.

No offense, but that's not enough compensation for Higgins.

Raiders will likely take a Day 3 pick for Mayer given they have Bowers in front of him.
Mayer for a 4th or 5th rounder seems fair to me, as Mayer only has 2-3 years left on his contract.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-01-2025, 12:18 AM)BFritz21 Wrote: The Raiders are trying to get rid of Mayer!


He hasn't had the chance to really break out because Bower came in after his rookie year but he'd kill it with Burrow throwing him the ball!

It would also open up our draft a lot!

Trade them Higgins for Mayer and a 4th or 5th rounder.

Lucky for us he didn't do well for them but I think he could be really good with us.

You are a funny guy Brad. I would be okay with bringing him in, but it would have to be for a 6th or 7th round pick and we only have 6 picks
in this Draft so I am not in a hurry to give any away. As a matter of fact, I am for doing trade backs to add more picks. Don't like trading Tee 
unless we get more than a 4th or 5th either. More like a couple 2nd rounders.

[Soonerpeace]

They aren’t remotely interested in Mayer. Zip nada. They will resign Gesicki and have Sample and All.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(03-03-2025, 03:25 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They aren’t remotely interested in Mayer. Zip nada. They will resign Gesicki and have Sample and All.

They do not “have” All. He shouldn’t even be factored into their plans.

[BFritz21]

(03-03-2025, 03:03 PM)ochocincos Wrote: No offense, but that's not enough compensation for Higgins.

Raiders will likely take a Day 3 pick for Mayer given they have Bowers in front of him.
Mayer for a 4th or 5th rounder seems fair to me, as Mayer only has 2-3 years left on his contract.

(03-03-2025, 03:06 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You are a funny guy Brad. I would be okay with bringing him in, but it would have to be for a 6th or 7th round pick and we only have 6 picks
in this Draft so I am not in a hurry to give any away. As a matter of fact, I am for doing trade backs to add more picks. Don't like trading Tee 
unless we get more than a 4th or 5th either. More like a couple 2nd rounders.

To both of you, definite error on my part but I was just thinking that we need to at least get something out of Higgins, especially if we don't sign him to a long-term deal, which I still don't think we should. 

 

[*rfaulk34*]

(03-03-2025, 03:25 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They aren’t remotely interested in Mayer. Zip nada. They will resign Gesicki and have Sample and All.

That's interesting but they did pass on him in the draft. Gesicki is fine, imo, but i wonder if they would be interested if Warren fell to them @17?

[*ochocincos*]

(03-03-2025, 03:25 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: They aren’t remotely interested in Mayer. Zip nada. They will resign Gesicki and have Sample and All.

With All's 2024 injury and history, All should be seen solely as a luxury item at this point.

Gesicki is a great receiving TE but does little blocking and likely won't be back for more than a year or two if returning at all.
Sample a blocking pony, not really any threat as a receiver. Dude clunky AF.

They need another TE who can be at least a pass catching threat if not do-it-all in case All doesn't end up being able to get past his injuries.

While I'd love for them to go after one of Warren, Loveland, or Taylor, I feel like Mitchell Evans out of ND would fit their offense well if they want someone like All who could be available early Day 3 of the draft.
Evans showed out better than I thought he would at the Combine, and his game film shows a do-it-all TE.

Mitchell Evans is a TE prospect in the 2025 draft class. He scored an unofficial 8.95 #RAS out of a possible 10.00. This ranked 127 out of 1202 TE from 1987 to 2025.

Splits projected, times unofficial.https://t.co/FdLxKIYW8l pic.twitter.com/YrFtM79CpJ

— Kent Lee Platte (@MathBomb) March 1, 2025

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-03-2025, 03:28 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: To both of you, definite error on my part but I was just thinking that we need to at least get something out of Higgins, especially if we don't sign him to a long-term deal, which I still don't think we should. 

 

Yeah, we need to get something for Tee if we trade him that is for sure.

Hoping for at least a 2nd round pick. Mayer and a 2nd from the Raiders and I would be more than fine with it.

(03-03-2025, 03:56 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That's interesting but they did pass on him in the draft. Gesicki is fine, imo, but i wonder if they would be interested if Warren fell to them @17?

Or Loveland. They evidently wanted Kincaid, Loveland is more like Kincaid than Warren is even if I personally like Warren more.

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(03-03-2025, 06:36 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, we need to get something for Tee if we trade him that is for sure.

Hoping for at least a 2nd round pick. Mayer and a 2nd from the Raiders and I would be more than fine with it.

To Raiders: Tee, our 1st, and our 4th
To Bengals: Raiders 1st, Mayer

Then we can take our pick of some real blue chips in the 1st since there's almost certainly going to be 2 QBs picked in the top 5, meaning we'd get the 4th pick of all the non-QB talent in the draft.

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(If you're wondering on the trade value chart, the difference between our 1st and their 1st is 650 points, and the Raiders 2nd is worth 530, hence our 4th which is worth 58. It would value Tee at roughly between the 33rd and 34th pick assuming we're saying Mayer is roughly our 6th rd pick. We come out ahead value-wise, but the Raiders finish with 2 picks instead of 1 so the sting of the slight value loss for them isn't so bad.)

[BrownAssClown]

If we feel the need to trade for a TE, I would rather go after Kyle Pitts. I think we re-sign Gesicki and draft a TE again this year. It's a shame about Eric All, I think his career may be over, even if he gets back on the field, durability will be an issue, just like it was with Eifert. I wish All the best but if he comes back, I'll be holding my breath with every hit he takes going forward.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(03-03-2025, 06:47 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: To Raiders: Tee, our 1st, and our 4th
To Bengals: Raiders 1st, Mayer

Then we can take our pick of some real blue chips in the 1st since there's almost certainly going to be 2 QBs picked in the top 5, meaning we'd get the 4th pick of all the non-QB talent in the draft.

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(If you're wondering on the trade value chart, the difference between our 1st and their 1st is 650 points, and the Raiders 2nd is worth 530, hence our 4th which is worth 58. It would value Tee at roughly between the 33rd and 34th pick assuming we're saying Mayer is roughly our 6th rd pick. We come out ahead value-wise, but the Raiders come out ahead by having 2 picks instead of 1 so the sting of the value loss isn't so bad.)

Well done, would be even more fine with this obviously, good job TLL.

[jj22]

I don’t know about his personal issues. He was screwed as soon as they drafted Bowers. I understand the lack of production and can get past that.

[Frank Booth]

(03-03-2025, 09:13 PM)jj22 Wrote: I don’t know about his personal issues. He was screwed as soon as they drafted Bowers. I understand the lack of production and can get past that.

2 tight ends can produce in the same offense. Mayer is just having mental problems or he just stinks

[Hammerstripes]

If the Raiders are giving up on him after 2 years, I'd give up a 7th for him or just wait until he gets cut. Although Brad has so much enthusiasm for him, he has very little, if any, worth right now.

Would he thrive here? Maybe, but he hasn't shown much. And I don't want to hear that it's because of the QB, because other TEs have done very well in that Raider offense lately.

[samhain]

FWIW, I also have a tough time seeing them trading anything for a TE when it's one of the stranger position groups in the draft.

Again, I'd take Mayer as a free agent. Probably wouldn't cost much. He should absolutely not be viewed as a replacement for All. All's value was as a willing and capable blocker with upside as a reciver. Isn't quite as slot-recievery as Mike G, but he's most definitely not the weapon that All was as a blocker.

Everything I hear is that the staff really loved Erick All and what he could do for the offense. I really look for them to try and find a player to fill that role in the draft.

[Soonerpeace]

(03-03-2025, 03:56 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: That's interesting but they did pass on him in the draft. Gesicki is fine, imo, but i wonder if they would be interested if Warren fell to them @17?

Tempted I’d say. Everybody discounting All I don’t know where they are getting that.

[George Cantstandya]

(03-03-2025, 10:50 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Tempted I’d say. Everybody discounting All I don’t know where they are getting that.

Probably because he is expected to miss the entire 2025 season due to his injury.