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Lacking HRs - ochocincos - 06-11-2025

One thing I have noticed about the team this year is how few HRs they seem to be hitting.
EDLC is the only guy on pace to have 25+ this year, but not quite sure he gets to 30. Currently sitting at 12 across 68 games with 94 games left.
Steer, Stephenson, and Candelario all had 19+ last year.
This year, no one else aside from EDLC has >7.

Do y'all think Reds end up having anyone with 30+?
How many besides EDLC end up having 20+?

I lean toward EDLC ends up in mid-high 20's, maybe someone like Benson or Hays ends up with 15-20 if they get enough games the rest of the season.
A handful of others in the low-mid teens.

I miss 2021 when Reds had 3 hitting 30+ (Suarez, Votto, Castellanos), 2 more guys hitting 20+ (India, Winker).

RE: Lacking HRs - The D.O.Z. - 06-11-2025

I wouldn't miss the HRs if they'd play small ball effectively and consistently. I think Austin Hays could have been our power guy this year if he coulda stayed healthy but I dont think that's gonna happen. Strange, how a supposed hitters park isn't helping the home team much. We used to talk about how "yada yada was going to turn his doubles into HR now that he plays in GABP" and I've yet to see it. Hopefully CES becomes that guy, but this organization did this team a massive disservice by not signing or trading for a power veteran bat.

RE: Lacking HRs - TheLeonardLeap - 06-12-2025

The Reds seem to hope that guys with warning track power will get 15 HRs instead of 5-10. Rather than targeting guys with 25-30 HR power who will have some of their fly balls turn into extra HRs and 35-40 HR power.

It's a strategy that never fails to confuse me. Build a team to take advantage of your home stadium.

It's up there with the Reds pitchers having the 29th ground ball % despite pitching half their games in GABP. Cueto's best years? Also his best GB% years. Same with Arroyo. Castillo was a big time GB% pitcher. Gray's two good years here were >50% GB. Fly ball pitchers can succeed here but it's less likely and they're doing it the hard way for no good reason.

Sign ground ball pitchers and power hitters seems like the easiest way to dominate GABP.
Instead they do the exact opposite and load up on fly ball pitchers and low power guys.

RE: Lacking HRs - TecmoBengals - 06-13-2025

(06-12-2025, 06:21 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: The Reds seem to hope that guys with warning track power will get 15 HRs instead of 5-10. Rather than targeting guys with 25-30 HR power who will have some of their fly balls turn into extra HRs and 35-40 HR power.

It's a strategy that never fails to confuse me. Build a team to take advantage of your home stadium.

It's up there with the Reds pitchers having the 29th ground ball % despite pitching half their games in GABP. Cueto's best years? Also his best GB% years. Same with Arroyo. Castillo was a big time GB% pitcher. Gray's two good years here were >50% GB. Fly ball pitchers can succeed here but it's less likely and they're doing it the hard way for no good reason.

Sign ground ball pitchers and power hitters seems like the easiest way to dominate GABP.
Instead they do the exact opposite and load up on fly ball pitchers and low power guys.

You summed up the conversation my dad and I have season after season. Go for high GB% pitchers and power bats to embrace the homefield. 

RE: Lacking HRs - Forever Spinning Vinyl - 06-13-2025

They have the budget for the old 80s St Louis Cardinals style OF (speed and average) and built a stadium for a Yankees style OF.

RE: Lacking HRs - ochocincos - 06-13-2025

(06-13-2025, 04:48 PM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: They have the budget for the old 80s St Louis Cardinals style OF (speed and average) and built a stadium for a Yankees style OF.

I really want to know if/how the Castellinis are in such financial dire straits that they haven't really increased the average payroll much at all in the past 10-15 years.

The average MLB player salary has increased 30% between 2015 to 2025, going from $3.9 mil to $5.16 mill.
The average MLB team payroll has increase from $87 mill in 2015 to $169.68 mill in 2025, an increase of nearly 2x.

Reds payroll in 2015 - $112.3 mill
Reds payroll in 2025 - $115.9 mill

Like...what?

RE: Lacking HRs - Nicomo Cosca - 06-15-2025


Pretty good company.