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RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - puddycat - 04-27-2025
Time will tell (obviously). Reviewing this draft makes me think the FO:
- is scapegoating Lou. They expect the run defense to be better without serious upgrades up the middle. Reader, Ogunjobi, Pratt, Bates, and Bell replaced with Slaton, Jenkins, Knight, Stone, and Battle.
- is betting on Jenkins and Jackson, and passing on one of the best DT classes in my memory.
- continue to go all in on Burrow, meaning ignoring the running game or a balanced offense. Expect Joe to pass or scramble 2/3 of the time and passes on 3rd/4th and short.
- is confident the secondary will sort itself out with Hilton leaving and Stone, Hill, and CTB on the last year of their contracts.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - The Clapp - 04-28-2025
(04-26-2025, 06:01 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Us guys? I'm one of a kind.
He's apparently against peeps with dogs as their profile avatar... So am I... change it!
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - The Clapp - 04-28-2025
(04-26-2025, 06:45 PM)NotBigzo Wrote: We’re pretty much expending more resources to field the exact same team we did last year. I’m supposed to be happy for that?
A lot of the defense (DBs) were hurt last year..
Hopefully they are healthy this year
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - Luvnit2 - 04-28-2025
(04-25-2025, 10:23 AM)ERIC1 Wrote: this was not a draft filled with phenomenal talent..Stewart was projected to go anywhere between 10-32..He is a physical beast, he disrupts ..high motor..and is still growing ..The NFL is completely different from college and coaches are looking at factors that would suggest success in the NFL..Jackson and Jenkins were playing lights out the end of last year and even Murphy was showing improvement..Drafting someone like Stewart is going to make this line fun to watch..To see people on this Board trashing this player when he has not even played a single down is absurd ..All teams make mistakes with some draft picks..some develop faster than others..but the Bengals have done remarkably well overall..
I am entering this thread now for the first time so if this was addressed, my apologies/
I think fans dismiss picks or say we reached when in fact we did not reach.
It is obvious the Bengals wanted a DE who weighs more than 260 lbs. That eliminated a bunch of guys. He was by far the best DE left on the board on most sites.
If he is our guy, we don't pick until #49, so no way we get him in round 2. I understand why Bengals felt DE was biggest need (why they drafted a DE over other positin groups) because we only have 1 DE under contract for 2026. Murphy is it as rest are on 1 year deals or in last year on contract (Trey).
I was vocal in the draft thread, I wanted Campbell, but I also understand why they chose on their own board (not all of the various boards) the number 1 DE Stewart and then drafted the #3 Kinight LB (other 2 were gone) at pick number 49. Same comment applies I made above, if Knight was their guy, it was highly unlikely no team grabes him prior to our 81st pick or 32 picks between our picks).
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - Nate (formerly eliminate08) - 04-28-2025
(2 hours ago)The Clapp Wrote: A lot of the defense (DBs) were hurt last year..
Hopefully they are healthy this year
And almost all of our DT's early last year were hurt too and we had terrible coaching on Defense.
Hard to say this is the same team.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - Luvnit2 - 04-28-2025
(04-25-2025, 09:48 AM)Joelist Wrote: Look I think Stewart was a terrible pick; project players of this type can be had on Day 3 usually. you could see what happened (as usual) - we wanted Nolen and it was too obvious. He got taken right before us. We panicked and instead of doing the smart thing (grabbing a G/T right then while several good ones were there) reached on a project pick.
Now we're locked into G/T in Round 2 and because we need an immediate starter our choice is again obvious and again we're reduced to hoping they aren't taken before we pick. For a team that relies on the draft our war room seems poorly prepared and unable to react quickly to circumstances.
It isn't the end of the world but it is galling. All they had to do was go up there with Zabel's name on the card and they would be in a good position today.
Sorry, the bolded is a very bad take. Do you honestly feel the FO had no plan if 1 player Nolan was drafted before they picked. If a DT was their choice, why not tke highly rated Harmon. Simple, Stewart was their top ranked DE and position of need on their board.
I am an amateur, but even I have mocked at least 12 guys in fantasy if I pick 12.
I get you are mad and hated the pick, but your logic makes no sense.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - XenoMorph - 04-28-2025
On paper it doesnt look great..
But we have had ones that have looked great and didnt pan out. Time will tell.. I think we picked for need over BPA im most cases this year.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - Luvnit2 - 04-28-2025
(1 hour ago)XenoMorph Wrote: On paper it doesnt look great..
But we have had ones that have looked great and didnt pan out. Time will tell.. I think we picked for need over BPA im most cases this year.
Someone mentioned it appears we decided to blow up the defense.
I agee based on both FA and the draft the FO and coaching + coaching changes all point to it was time to blow up one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
It appears they are comfortable with not adding to the DB room as of now with no Hilton. Maybe they resign him, we will see. A position group I am still not comfortable with is safety, I am just not. fan of Stone, he played slow in my opinion.
I also think Golden wanted a faster front 7 and guys who can play a variety of different roles in different schemes.
I have no idea how it pans out, but do like they let Golden grab guys for his system early.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - Yogo - 04-28-2025
I appreciate that Al didn't seem to play ND Homer and select Watts or Kizer like we all expected and seemed to go after guys that have the traits he needs for his system. I'm still scratching my head. I really thought we were reloading for more 4-2-5 so I was thinking Pearce and Walker for his Viper, but really, it looks like we may be going to a 4-3-4 which I wouldn't mind with the AFC North.
RE: Worse draft in the Burrow Era - XenoMorph - 04-28-2025
(57 minutes ago)Luvnit2 Wrote: Someone mentioned it appears we decided to blow up the defense.
I agee based on both FA and the draft the FO and coaching + coaching changes all point to it was time to blow up one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
It appears they are comfortable with not adding to the DB room as of now with no Hilton. Maybe they resign him, we will see. A position group I am still not comfortable with is safety, I am just not. fan of Stone, he played slow in my opinion.
I also think Golden wanted a faster front 7 and guys who can play a variety of different roles in different schemes.
I have no idea how it pans out, but do like they let Golden grab guys for his system early.
looks like we could have gotten a high ranked OG in round 2 and still got the ND saftey in the 3rd. both LBers felt like reaches... I like the OG we did get in 3 though. still think if we had to double dip we should have added someone during FA
But cant condemn it before anyone plays