(Yesterday, 05:23 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Bro, outside of Chase and Tee who are top level, the receiving corps isn’t what you’re saving it is. Gesicki is okay but he’s not pro bowl. Yosh….I would fully expect a 2nd round pick from big school Michigan, 3rd offseason to shut down anyone not named Higgins or Chase. Reports are he’s struggled a lot except one day. Hopefully that is the catalyst, but I’m not holding my breath.

(Yesterday, 06:45 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: If you don’t think our entire receiving group including Gesicki & Fant is not at minimum top 3 then now I think I get you.

(Yesterday, 06:50 PM)TCUBengal34 Wrote: Yeah, Bengals receiving group top 3 in the NFL, if not the best. IDK, Eagles are hard to beat.

Shoot, having Chase by default makes you top 5. What a nightmare to try and scheme for week to week. 

(Yesterday, 06:50 PM)TCUBengal34 Wrote: Yeah, Bengals receiving group top 3 in the NFL, if not the best. IDK, Eagles are hard to beat.

Shoot, having Chase by default makes you top 5. What a nightmare to try and scheme for week to week. 

(Yesterday, 05:23 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Bro, outside of Chase and Tee who are top level, the receiving corps isn’t what you’re saving it is. Gesicki is okay but he’s not pro bowl. Yosh….I would fully expect a 2nd round pick from big school Michigan, 3rd offseason to shut down anyone not named Higgins or Chase. Reports are he’s struggled a lot except one day. Hopefully that is the catalyst, but I’m not holding my breath.

(Yesterday, 06:35 PM)TCUBengal34 Wrote: I know a thing about DB play. 2 things about the Corner position.

1) Unless you're just an elite elite cover guy (Deion, Prime Revis, or the best current CB in the NFL, Derrick Stingley) the position can be fairly scheme dependent. I have not done a deep dive into Golden's scheme, but this could be something that really benefits a guy like Turner's skill set, who's fairly small for corner.

2) While it's not QB or OL, it is still has a runway as a fairly developmental position. He's still pretty young

Overall he has traits that you like and I think can be a top half starting corner in the NFL.

Now I need my guy Newton to start making plays, How has he been looking in camp?

(Yesterday, 06:45 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: If you don’t think our entire receiving group including Gesicki & Fant is not at minimum top 3 then now I think I get you.

(Yesterday, 07:55 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: I would ask you, which QB had the most passing yards in the league last season? Then, which QB had the most tuds with 43? Then, who were the pass catchers during the 2024 season? Then I would mention how the teams WR #1 won the triple crown in 2024. The supporting cast has been stellar, they just added Fant, and Burton is showing signs of maturity. When you get done looking up the answers to these questions, then you can decide whether or not to continue poo-pooing the offense.

Lastly, I would point out that I am speaking of the entire young CB room, not just one player in that room. Ivey, Turner, Dax (injury, Lou's scheme, and position change) have held him back, Newton, with CTB being the anchor now. CTB is the anchor! I left some players off the list that are talented in their own right! These guys are young, talented ,and fast. Some growing pains are certain. 

(Yesterday, 09:48 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: There’s a difference between saying we have a top 3 receiving corp, top to bottom (which I agree with, and would say we’re #1) and saying Yoshi and Gesicki are world class receivers and therefore DJ Turner is of course going to struggle. Collectively and comparatively, yes we are the best receiving group.

But any teams 3rd, 4th, 5th option should struggle against a 3rd year, 2nd round BIG10 CB. And they’re not. It says more about the CB than it does the WR.

(Yesterday, 11:00 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: DJ is struggling against AI & Gesicki but whipped Chase all day yesterday? Perplexing

(Yesterday, 10:25 PM)Ell Prez Wrote: Dude, im not stupid. I think Burrow is the best in the league. I think Chase is the best receiver and Tee and Chase are the best duo. I’m not poo pooing the offense. I’m poo pooing the secondary, and in this instance, DJ Turner. The first poster said the reason DJ Turner is getting beat is because he’s going against the likes of Gesicki and Yosh.

I fully expect Tee and Chase to beat Turner 60-70% of the time. but not not Gesicki and AI.

(Yesterday, 05:49 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Then why didnt he have the surgery in the off season?  Are we going to go through this entire season wondering if Mims thumb is going to act up and if he will be available to play?

(Yesterday, 06:35 PM)TCUBengal34 Wrote: I know a thing about DB play. 2 things about the Corner position.

1) Unless you're just an elite elite cover guy (Deion, Prime Revis, or the best current CB in the NFL, Derrick Stingley) the position can be fairly scheme dependent. I have not done a deep dive into Golden's scheme, but this could be something that really benefits a guy like Turner's skill set, who's fairly small for corner.

2) While it's not QB or OL, it is still has a runway as a fairly developmental position. He's still pretty young

Overall he has traits that you like and I think can be a top half starting corner in the NFL.

Now I need my guy Newton to start making plays, How has he been looking in camp?

Browns QB Shedeur Sanders held out of team drills Saturday due to shoulder sorenesshttps://t.co/FxN4RublVz pic.twitter.com/Zl4cZlMx7h

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) August 2, 2025

(4 hours ago)pally Wrote: its going to be a beautiful night for those going to tonite's practice in Paycor

(3 hours ago)pally Wrote: Browns down to 2 healthy QBs.  Kenny Pickett already limited with a hamstring issue

shoulder soreness in camp is not a good early sign

Browns QB Shedeur Sanders held out of team drills Saturday due to shoulder sorenesshttps://t.co/FxN4RublVz pic.twitter.com/Zl4cZlMx7h

— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) August 2, 2025

(Today, 01:33 AM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: It's way early! Guys are getting in football shape, some are coming off injuries, and they're learning a new system. We have an entire month of reps and learning before the real deal. I]m willing to be patient for now. 

As to the later players you mentioned, I think you're selling both short. Both are physical, gifted mismatches, hence why each had 5-6 tuds apiece last season. 

Never called you stupid. I just pointed out a few things about the offense that you are overlooking or perhaps didn't take into consideration. This offense is becoming elite. If they ever get a smash mouth type of running game to accompany the current passing attack, they will be deadly regardless of the defense. 

(4 hours ago)pally Wrote: its going to be a beautiful night for those going to tonite's practice in Paycor