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RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-10-2025
RB2 Samjae Perine back for 2 years, $3.8 mil. Presumably a Moss release is coming.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/10/24382501/samaje-perine-chiefs-bengals-buccaneers-nfl-free-agents-2025
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2025 Bengals Rosters: Coaches & Players
I. Current Coaching Roster
https://www.bengals.com/team/coaches-roster/
A. Head Coach & Coordinators
Head Coach: Zach Taylor
Offensive Coordinator: Dan Pitcher
Defensive Coordinator: Al Golden
----------------
B. Offensive Coaches
Justin Rascati (Pass Game Coordinator); Scott Peters (OL), Brad Kragthorpe (QB), Troy Walters (WR), Jusin Hill (RB), James Casey (TE), Jordan Salkin (Offensive Assistant), Michael McCarthy (OL Assistant), Fredi Knighten (QB Assistant), Jordan Salkin (WR assistant).
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C. Defensive Coaches
Sean Dessi (Senior Defensive Assistant), Jerry Montgomery (DL + Run Defense Coordinator), Mike Hodges (LB's); Charles Burks (Secondary/CBs), Jordan Kovacs (Sec/Safety), Ronnie Regula (Defensive Assistant), Mike Moon (Defensive Assistant).
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D. Special Teams Coaches
Darrin Simmons (ST Coordinator/Ast HC), Ben Jacobs (ST Assistant).
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E. Strength & Conditioning
Joey Boese (Head/DIR Player Performance), Diamond Simmons (Ast STR & COND), Garrett Swanson (Ast STR & COND).
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F. Administrative
Doug Rosfeld (Chief of Coaching staff)
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-finalize-2025-coaching-staff
=====================
II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 50
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
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Defense = 21
DE (4): Hendrickson; Murphy, C. Johnson, I. Thomas
DT (3): BJ Hill, Jenkins; Jackson
LB (4): L. Wilson, Pratt; Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, L.PP Robinson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (51)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (64)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 16
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3.DE3: Joseph Ossai
4. LB3: Akeem Davis-Gaither
5. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
6. RB3: Khalil Herbert
7. DE5: Cam Sample
8. DT5: Jay Tufele
9. LB4: Joe Bachie
10. PK: Cade York (RFA)
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11. RB4: Trayveon Williams
12. RB5: Chris Evans
13. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
14. CB7: Marco Williams
-------------
15. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
16. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VI. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 11
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
11. RB Samjae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
----------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 1
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
----------
VIII. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
--------------
3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
Guess after Hill, if at $11 mil hit, around $32 mil. Adter Perine, likely above $30 still.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-10-2025
Packers NT/DT TJ Slaton is now a Bengal. 2 years, $15 mil. Run stuffer.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/10/24382545/tj-slaton-bengals-packers-free-agents-2025
PFF hated his 2024 (45.4 grade) but ESPN rated him with the highest run stop win % of any DT in the league (400+ snaps).
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41040723/2024-nfl-win-rates-top-teams-players-rankings
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2025 Bengals Rosters: Coaches & Players
I. Current Coaching Roster
https://www.bengals.com/team/coaches-roster/
A. Head Coach & Coordinators
Head Coach: Zach Taylor
Offensive Coordinator: Dan Pitcher
Defensive Coordinator: Al Golden
----------------
B. Offensive Coaches
Justin Rascati (Pass Game Coordinator); Scott Peters (OL), Brad Kragthorpe (QB), Troy Walters (WR), Jusin Hill (RB), James Casey (TE), Jordan Salkin (Offensive Assistant), Michael McCarthy (OL Assistant), Fredi Knighten (QB Assistant), Jordan Salkin (WR assistant).
-----------
C. Defensive Coaches
Sean Dessi (Senior Defensive Assistant), Jerry Montgomery (DL + Run Defense Coordinator), Mike Hodges (LB's); Charles Burks (Secondary/CBs), Jordan Kovacs (Sec/Safety), Ronnie Regula (Defensive Assistant), Mike Moon (Defensive Assistant).
----------
D. Special Teams Coaches
Darrin Simmons (ST Coordinator/Ast HC), Ben Jacobs (ST Assistant).
--------------
E. Strength & Conditioning
Joey Boese (Head/DIR Player Performance), Diamond Simmons (Ast STR & COND), Garrett Swanson (Ast STR & COND).
------------------
F. Administrative
Doug Rosfeld (Chief of Coaching staff)
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-finalize-2025-coaching-staff
=====================
II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 51
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
----------------
Defense = 22
DE (4): Hendrickson; Murphy, C. Johnson, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (4): L. Wilson, Pratt; Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, L. Robinson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (52)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (65)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 16
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3.DE3: Joseph Ossai
4. LB3: Akeem Davis-Gaither
5. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
6. RB3: Khalil Herbert
7. DE5: Cam Sample
8. DT5: Jay Tufele
9. LB4: Joe Bachie
10. PK: Cade York (RFA)
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11. RB4: Trayveon Williams
12. RB5: Chris Evans
13. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
14. CB7: Marco Williams
-------------
15. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
16. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VI. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 11
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
VII. Outside FA's brought in (2)
1. RB Samjae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15 mil
----------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 1
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
----------
VIII. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
--------------
3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
Guess after Hill, if at $11 mil hit, around $32 mil. Adter Perine, likely above $30 still. With Slaton, $22 ish.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-10-2025
Bengals sign former Eagles LB Oren Burks. Who was mostly a ST guy until LB Nakobe Dean got hurt, and started and played well during the SB run. PFF, 149 snaps, 83.0 overall 86.8 run D, 70.0 coverage, 63.2 pass rush. Better in SB. 2 years, $5 mil. At least LB3 if not challenging for LB2.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/10/24382718/oren-burks-bengals-eagles-free-agents-2025-nfl
ADG signs with Cardinals. 2 years, $11 mil.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/10/24382760/akeem-davis-leaves-cincinnati-bengals-arizona-cardinals-free-agents-2025
=======================
2025 Bengals Rosters: Coaches & Players
I. Current Coaching Roster
https://www.bengals.com/team/coaches-roster/
A. Head Coach & Coordinators
Head Coach: Zach Taylor
Offensive Coordinator: Dan Pitcher
Defensive Coordinator: Al Golden
----------------
B. Offensive Coaches
Justin Rascati (Pass Game Coordinator); Scott Peters (OL), Brad Kragthorpe (QB), Troy Walters (WR), Jusin Hill (RB), James Casey (TE), Jordan Salkin (Offensive Assistant), Michael McCarthy (OL Assistant), Fredi Knighten (QB Assistant), Jordan Salkin (WR assistant).
-----------
C. Defensive Coaches
Sean Dessi (Senior Defensive Assistant), Jerry Montgomery (DL + Run Defense Coordinator), Mike Hodges (LB's); Charles Burks (Secondary/CBs), Jordan Kovacs (Sec/Safety), Ronnie Regula (Defensive Assistant), Mike Moon (Defensive Assistant).
----------
D. Special Teams Coaches
Darrin Simmons (ST Coordinator/Ast HC), Ben Jacobs (ST Assistant).
--------------
E. Strength & Conditioning
Joey Boese (Head/DIR Player Performance), Diamond Simmons (Ast STR & COND), Garrett Swanson (Ast STR & COND).
------------------
F. Administrative
Doug Rosfeld (Chief of Coaching staff)
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-finalize-2025-coaching-staff
=====================
II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 52
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
----------------
Defense = 23
DE (4): Hendrickson; Murphy, C. Johnson, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, L. Robinson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (53)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (66)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
---------------
V. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 15
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. DE3: Joseph Ossai
4. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
5. RB3: Khalil Herbert
6. DE5: Cam Sample
7. DT5: Jay Tufele
8. LB4: Joe Bachie
9. PK: Cade York (RFA)
------------
10. RB4: Trayveon Williams
11. RB5: Chris Evans
12. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
13. CB7: Marco Williams
-------------
14. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
15. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VI. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 10
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
VII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samjae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 2
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaitger, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
----------
VIII. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
--------------
3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
Guess after Hill, if at $11 mil hit, around $32 mil. Adter Perine, likely above $30 still. With Slaton, and Burks, $20-ish? Maybe more.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-10-2025
DE Joseph Ossai is back. 1 year, $7 mil. Bit of an overpay for a guy I was hoping to be DE3, but he's a starter atm.
No idea where space is at. $12 mil? More?
Let's go players only.
=====================
II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 53
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
----------------
Defense = 24
DE (5): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy, C. Johnson, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, L. Robinson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (54)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (66)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
---------------
V. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 14
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
4. RB3: Khalil Herbert
5. DE5: Cam Sample
6. DT5: Jay Tufele
7. LB4: Joe Bachie
8. PK: Cade York (RFA)
------------
9. RB4: Trayveon Williams
10. RB5: Chris Evans
11. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
12. CB7: Marco Williams
-------------
13. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
14. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VI. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 11
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
11. DE Joseph Ossai, 1 year, $7 mil
-------------------
VII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samjae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 2
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaitger, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
----------
VIII. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
--------------
3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
No idea where we are now. $12?
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-11-2025
Spotrac has Perine counting $1.4 mil against the cap.
Ossai has to be $7.
Unknowns: Hudson (can't be much), Hill, Slaton, Burks.
Guestimating $35 mil with Hill, Slaton, & Burks not factored in. Cutting Moss would push it to $38.
APY's of $11/$7.5/$2.5 would teduce it to $17 mil, but the space is likely more.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - NATI BENGALS - 03-11-2025
(03-11-2025, 01:46 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Spotrac has Perine counting $1.4 mil against the cap.
Ossai has to be $7.
Unknowns: Hudson (can't be much), Hill, Slaton, Burks.
Guestimating $35 mil with Hill, Slaton, & Burks not factored in. Cutting Moss would push it to $38.
APY's of $11/$7.5/$2.5 would teduce it to $17 mil, but the space is likely more.
Wow. Not much left by my quick math. Hoping for some news on a Joe Burrow restructure and locking up Trey, Tee, and Chase.
Would have loved another G and some bigger FA splashes (not many bigger than Slaton) but I'm not mad if we go into the draft with that roster.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-11-2025
CB6 Marco Wilson has been re-signed for 1 year, and $1.52 mil.
Fringe roster guy who did play some last year after Hill & Turner got hurt. 36 snaps.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/11/24383207/marco-wilson-deal-bengals
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II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 53
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
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Defense = 24
DE (5): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy, C. Johnson, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, M. Wilson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (54)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (67)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, 3, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, 1, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, 0, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, 1, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, 0, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, 0, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, 1, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, 0, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, 0, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, 0, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, 4, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, 0, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, 0, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Non Future's deals, but signed PS Candidates (1), 68
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. CB L. Robinson, 1, $842,333, $4,667
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VI. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 13
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
4. RB3: Khalil Herbert
5. DE5: Cam Sample
6. DT5: Jay Tufele
7. LB4: Joe Bachie
8. PK: Cade York (RFA)
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9. RB4: Trayveon Williams
10. RB5: Chris Evans
11. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
-------------
12. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
13. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 12
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
11. DE Joseph Ossai, 1 year, $7 mil
12. CB Marco Williams, 1 year, $1.52 mil
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VIII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samajae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
IX. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 2
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaither, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
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X. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil (Texans, 1/$7)
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil (Raiders, 2/$11.2)
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
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3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
No idea where we are now. $12?
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-12-2025
Bengals re-sign DE Cam Sample to what is most likely a minimal get right/do right deal after his Achilles tear in pre-season.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2025/3/12/24383688/cam-sample-bengals
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II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 54
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
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Defense = 25
DE (6): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy, C. Johnson, C. Sample, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, M. Wilson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (55)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (68)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, 3, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, 1, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, 0, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, 1, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, 0, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, 0, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, 1, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, 0, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, 0, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, 0, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, 4, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, 0, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, 0, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Non Future's deals, but signed PS Candidates (1), 69
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. CB L. Robinson, 1, $842,333, $4,667
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VI. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 11
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
4. DT ay Tufele
5. LB4: Joe Bachie
6. PK: Cade York (RFA)
------------
7. RB4: Trayveon Williams
8. RB5: Chris Evans
9. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
-------------
10. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
11. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 13
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
11. DE Joseph Ossai, 1 year, $7 mil
12. CB Marco Williams, 1 year, $1.52 mil
13. DE Cam Sample, 1 year, $$??
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VIII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samajae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
IX. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 3
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaither, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
3. RB Khalil Herbert, Indy, ?? terms
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X. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil (Texans, 1/$7)
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil (Raiders, 2/$11.2)
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
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3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $285,135,175
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
No idea where we are now. $20?
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-13-2025
Spitrac has BJ at $8,666,666 cap hit. Ossai is $7 mil if the reporting is accurate. Negligible impact for Sample. And putting in OTC's new cap numbers for us (we got a slight upwards adjustment)....
I have us at $23.4 mil in cap space IF Moss is waived using top 51.
Practically less for the regular season (53, practice squad, IR, 1st round rookie, etc).
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - CottonHill - 03-13-2025
15 mill for for those two is sickening when actual impact guys could’ve been signed for that. If not impact, at least above average, these two are less than replacement level
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-13-2025
(03-13-2025, 02:44 PM)CottonHill Wrote: 15 mill for for those two is sickening when actual impact guys could’ve been signed for that. If not impact, at least above average, these two are less than replacement level
Hill is WAY above replacement level. Even ESPN's metrics, which don't like him much, had him 11th vs the run. PFF likes him better. 1 of 4 at 70+ on our D (Trey, Logan, Hilton, Hill).
Ossai came on late. If he'd have been getting Hubbard's snaps from jump, he'd have been close to 10 sacks.
I think most of the DT/DE FA class were overpaid or over the hill, or coming off underehelming season. Outside of Sweat/Mack, I would not have paid $15 mil to amy of them. And Mack was always staying home.
Tufele is replacement level. He signed with the Jets, FWIW.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-13-2025
Tufele to the Jets.
Hill's hit is $8,625,490 via OTC. Sample reportedly $1.6 (likely nothing guaranteed). And Ossai not official yet, but no wiggle room in 1 yr/$7.
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II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 54
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
----------------
Defense = 25
DE (6): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy, C. Johnson, C. Sample, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, M. Wilson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (55)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (68)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, 3, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, 1, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, 0, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, 1, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, 0, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, 0, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, 1, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, 0, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, 0, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, 0, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, 4, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, 0, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, 0, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Non Future's deals, but signed PS Candidates (1), 69
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. CB L. Robinson, 1, $842,333, $4,667
---------------
VI. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 11
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
4. LB4: Joe Bachie
5. PK: Cade York
------------
6. RB4: Trayveon Williams
7. RB5: Chris Evans
8. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
-------------
9. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
10. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Re-signed = 13
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. WR Tee Higgins, $26,179,200. Franchise Tag.
6. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
7. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
8. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
9. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
10. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
11. DE Joseph Ossai, 1 year, $7 mil
12. CB Marco Williams, 1 year, $1.52 mil
13. DE Cam Sample, 1 year, $1.6 mil
-------------------
VIII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samajae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
IX. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 3
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaither, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
3. RB Khalil Herbert, Indy, ?? terms
4. DT Jay Tufele, Jets, $ terms
----------
X. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil (Texans, 1/$7)
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil (Raiders, 2/$11.2)
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
3. Adjustments: ???
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3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $286,444,571
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
Just under $20 mil. Around $23 mil if we cut Moss.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-17-2025
Chase & Higgins re-signed to 4 yeer deals. Chase's is 4 years and $161 mil, and is now signed thru 2029. Higgins comes in at 4 years and $115 mil and is signed thru 2028.
Cap hits and full details not yet available. And in bizarro NFL salary cap world, both deals should/could actually lower their cap hits this year by a significant amount.
Now go get some guards, restructure Joe, and sign Trey to an extension.
=====================
II. Current Player Roster: Signed for 2025 = 54
Italics denotes a player with a zero dead cap hit.
Offense = 26
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): C. Brown; Perine, Moss, Milton
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas; C. Jones, I. Williams, Burton
TE (5): D. Sample; Gesicki, Hudson, Grandy, McLachlan
OT (3): O. Brown, Mims; Cochran
G (4): Volson; Ford (G/T), Kirkland, Stueber
C (2): Karras (C/G); Lee (C/T/G)
----------------
Defense = 25
DE (6): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy, C. Johnson, C. Sample, I. Thomas
DT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins; Jackson
LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks, Njongmeta, Heyward
CB (6): CTB, D. Hill; Turner, Newton, Ivey, M. Wilson
S (4): Battle, Stone; Anderson, Anthony
---------------
Special Teams = 3
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
=================
III. Injured Reserve = 1 (55)
1. Erick All, TE, (knee). Likely season-ending 2nd surgeey.
-----------------------
IV. Signed to Future's Contracts = 13 (68)
These guys do technically take up roster spaces and cap space at the moment. But effectively they do not, as none of them have any Dead Cap hit if released. These are camp bodies, practice squad types with perhaps a dark horse candidate to make the 53 or two.
But it does give one a better idea if how much space we'd have with a full toster instead of only 44.
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. RB Gary Brightwell, 3, $1,100,000, Zero
2. WR Kendric Pryor, 1, $1,030,000, Zero
3. WR Cole Burgess, 0, $840,000, Zero
4. WR Mitchell Tinsley, 1, $960,000, Zero
5. OT Andrew Coker, 0, $840,000, Zero
6. OG Tayshawn Manning, 0, $8400,000,Zer0
7. DE Raymond Johnson III, 1, $960,000, Zero
8. LB Craig Young, 0, $840,000, Zero
9. CB Micah Abraham, 0, $840,000, Zero
10. CB Nate Brooks, 0, $960,000, Zero
11. CB Jalen Davis, 4, $1,030,000, Zero
12. S PJ Jules, 0, $840,000, Zero
13. S Jaylen Key, 0, $840,000, Zero
https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-sign-11-players-to-reserve-future-contracts-bengals-roster-update
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V. Non Future's deals, but signed PS Candidates (1), 69
#, Pos, Player, # Acc Yrs, Salary, Dead Cap
1. CB L. Robinson, 1, $842,333, $4,667
---------------
VI. Bengals Free Agents: 53/IR/PS = 10
Pos, Player
1. CB3: Mike Hilton
-------------
2. OT3: Trent Brown
3. S3: Vonn Bell
-------------
4. LB4: Joe Bachie
5. PK: Cade York
------------
6. RB4: Trayveon Williams
7. RB5: Chris Evans
8. OG/OT: D'Ante Smith
-------------
9. OC/OG: Tre Hil (PS)
10. QB: Logan Woodside (PS)
------------
VII. Bengals FA's, Re-signed/Extensions = 14
1. TE Cam Grandy, ERFA, 1 year, $980,000.
2. CB Jalen Davis, Future's/Reserve, $1,030,000
3. P Ryan Rehkow, ERFA, 2 yrs, $960,000 in 2025
4. LS Cal Adomitis, RFA, 1 year, $1,100,000
5. OG Jaxson Kirkland, ERFA, 1 yr $960,000
6. TE Tanner Hudson, 1 year, ??? $$$
7. TE/WR Mike Gesicki, 3 years, $25.5 mil
8. OG/OT Cody Ford, 2 years, $6,000,000
9. DT BJ Hill, 3 years, $33 mil, $16 G.
10. DE Joseph Ossai, 1 year, $7 mil
11. CB Marco Williams, 1 year, $1.52 mil
12. DE Cam Sample, 1 year, $1.6 mil
13. WR Tee Higgins, 4 years, $115 million
14. WR Ja'Marr Chase, 4 years, $161 mil (extension)
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VIII. Outside FA's brought in (3)
1. RB Samajae Perine, 2 years, $3.8 mil.
2. NT/DT TJ Slaton, 2 years, $15.1 mil
3. LB Oren Burks, 2 years, $5 mil
----------------
IX. Bengals FA's, Signed elsewhere = 3
1. DT: Dominique Davis (PS), Pitt Future's contract
2. LB: Akeem Davis-Gaither, AZ, 2 yrs, $11 mil
3. RB Khalil Herbert, Indy, ?? terms
4. DT Jay Tufele, Jets, $ terms
----------
X. Bengals Cuts from last year's 53 = 3
#, Pos, Player, Cap Savings, Dead Cap
1. DT Sheldon Rankins, $9.618 mil, $2 mil (Texans, 1/$7)
2. G Alex Cappa, $8 mil, $2.25 mil (Raiders, 2/$11.2)
3. DE Sam Hubbard, $9.5 mil, $2 mil (retired)
===========================
III. Bengals Cap Status
A. Base Cap Calculator
1. NFL Salary Cap = $279,200,000
2. 2024 Bengals Rollover = $5,935,175
3. Adjustments: ???
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3. Bengals 2025 Cap#: $286,444,571
B. 2025 Bengals Spending
1. Dead Cap = $6,607,962
C. Cap Space Calculator
The most common method via spotrac & OTC is the top 51 method, which is accurate for the off-season, but does not include all 53 players in the regular season, the cost of the practice squad (or possibly rookies), or include low salary guys likely to make the team.
So, top 51 gives a quick idea of howuch space you have, but is gonna overestimate the space by the cost of the PS ($3-$4 mil), 2 low end roster spots ($2 mil), and the cost of you rookie contracts over existing guys (hard to say, depending on who gets cut).
1. Top 51 Cap Space
No idea. Chase & Higgins deals have unknown details. Moss is still on the roster, and most sites have not included Ossai/Sample yet either.
But I reckon north of $30 mil via Top 51.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - pally - 03-17-2025
official now
We have signed LB Oren Burks.
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RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-18-2025
Well, that is now official. Tee & Chase tomorrow.
Get Trey done, and restructure Joe, and then dolash some cash. Trenches first.
My favorites:
LG: Jenkins
RG: Scherff, Hernandez, Risner
DE: Smith
DT: Campbell
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CB: Gilmore, Hilton
S: Simmons, Blackmon
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-18-2025
Guys I am nearly certain make a 53 if we had to play a game soon:
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (2): C. Brown; Perine
WR (3): Chase, Higgins, Iosivas
TE/WR (1): Gesicki
TE (3): D. Sample; All (IR likely), Hudson
OT (2): O. Brown, Mims
G (2): Ford (G/OT), Volson
C (2): Karras; Lee
--------17 on offense--------
DE (3): Hendrickson, Ossai; Murphy
DT/NT (4): BJ Hill, Slaton; Jenkins, Jackson
LB (3): L. Wilson, Pratt; Burks
CB (4): CTB, Turner, D. Hill; Newton
S (2): Battle, Stone
---------16 defense------
PK: McPherson
P: Rehkow
LS: Adomitis
-----3 specials---36 total, 35 if All IR'd
Not saying all of the above guys make it to the 53, but as of now, with who we have, it ishard to imagine then not.
I think everyone else is kind of fringe. Though some more inner fringe and some more outer.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - pulses - 03-18-2025
(03-13-2025, 02:42 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Spitrac has BJ at $8,666,666 cap hit. Ossai is $7 mil if the reporting is accurate. Negligible impact for Sample. And putting in OTC's new cap numbers for us (we got a slight upwards adjustment)....
I have us at $23.4 mil in cap space IF Moss is waived using top 51.
Practically less for the regular season (53, practice squad, IR, 1st round rookie, etc).
I heard someone say today it was 28 million....
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-19-2025
(03-18-2025, 01:27 AM)pulses Wrote: I heard someone say today it was 28 million....
OTC & Spotrac have the numbers in for Ossai ($6.5 mil) and Sample ($1.2 mil).
OTC is at $23.5 for top 51. But that is without Tee & Chase's deals added in (+$10 mil at least) or Moss being cut (+$3.5 mil).
That would get us to $37 mil.
On the downside, Trey will cost more (say $6 mil).
And of course, in the regular, you have to pay 53 not 51, and the PS. That will cost $5 mil or so additional. Back to $27 or so. And the 1st rounder will earnore than whomever he displaces as long as it isn't Pratt or Stone. By around $2 mil. So $25 would be my guess. And Brown usually likes to keep a cushion, and we will pay All even on IR.
So, my guestimate would be $24 minus the cushion.
Of course, if Burrow reatructures (can Brown afgord all that cash flow this year?), that would push it back over $40.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - phil413 - 03-19-2025
(03-19-2025, 11:45 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: OTC & Spotrac have the numbers in for Ossai ($6.5 mil) and Sample ($1.2 mil).
OTC is at $23.5 for top 51. But that is without Tee & Chase's deals added in (+$10 mil at least) or Moss being cut (+$3.5 mil).
That would get us to $37 mil.
On the downside, Trey will cost more (say $6 mil).
And of course, in the regular, you have to pay 53 not 51, and the PS. That will cost $5 mil or so additional. Back to $27 or so. And the 1st rounder will earnore than whomever he displaces as long as it isn't Pratt or Stone. By around $2 mil. So $25 would be my guess. And Brown usually likes to keep a cushion, and we will pay All even on IR.
So, my guestimate would be $24 minus the cushion.
Of course, if Burrow reatructures (can Brown afgord all that cash flow this year?), that would push it back over $40.
Nice breakdown. Looks like they can sign a vet guard and ring chasing DL while still giving Trey a raise this year to extend him at a reasonable number.
RE: The 2025 Bengals Rosters Thread: Coaches & Players - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 03-20-2025
FWIW, OTC has Slaton's cap hit at $5.44 mil, while Spotrac has it at $7.94 mil.
OTC usually gets this right. I like him better at $5.5 mil than $8 mil, for sure.