Seasons a QB has had 30+ pass TD & 5 or fewer INTs through first 12 games
W-L
2024: Joe Burrow 4-8
2020: Aaron Rodgers 9-3
2020: Patrick Mahomes 11-1
2018: Drew… pic.twitter.com/sPmts6Z7gp

— NFL on CBS ? (@NFLonCBS) December 2, 2024

(12-02-2024, 02:32 PM)Mickeypoo Wrote: Honest question...............How does anyone know that Katie and the rest of the curse won't be just as bad or worse than MB?  They learned from him.  He raised her.  Taught her everything she knows.

Nothing matters to these people.  It's crazy.

Bad publicity?  Nope.
Humiliation?  Nope
Star players calling them out?  Nope.
Being the worst and biggest laughing stock in all of NFL history?  Nope, they don't care.

I mean, I HOPE when MB is gone things change for the better, but hope is not a plan and I am certainly not holding my breath.

The Bengals have finally Bungalized me this season.  I still watch the games.  I still hope they win.  But I have no excitement anymore.  Those effing Brown family pieces of !@#$ finally and truly killed my spirit.  The letdown was just too big to overcome.

I rememeber telling all  my friends in 22' that is was soooooo nice to finally have a good team for what looked like many years to come.   Something I have never experienced.  It lasted 2 years.  Then shit last year and now worse shit this year.

Screw the Brown famliy.

(12-02-2024, 01:38 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We'll just have to see if this changes their mindset about how they regard the IOL and middle of the defense positions.

I agree that at least one coordinator needs to go, Anarumo for sure. I'm willing to give Pitcher a pass as the passing game has been strong all year. The changes needed on offense have more to do with a change in mindset from Zac Taylor than anything. He has to respect the power of using a rushing attack and the value of having tough people movers on the inside of the OL. A change in OL coach would provide great cover for Taylor to change his philosophy without having to blatantly admit that he's been wrong.

(12-02-2024, 03:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Great post Sunset. This is what I am hoping, Pollack is the perfect guy to replace to help Zac and Pitcher. If we have a run game and stick 
to it this Offense could be unstoppable. Having a smaller back in Chase Brown who sometimes goes down easy has also been great cover 
for Zac, but Herbert just had a nice run on the stealers yesterday too and is a bigger back. If we can get a new OL coach in here with some
new Guards and Zac actually commits some to the run game great things could be ahead.

(12-02-2024, 03:50 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: What they'll do is replace Pollack with someone worst from their past, then we'll be like...man did we have it good with Pollack here. And we'll bring him back.

Lets make a list of candidates to replace Pollack. Who was the Dolphins line coach when Zac was OC there for that handful of games?

Oh wait...I think that guy was already our line coach once.

(12-02-2024, 03:23 PM)Sled21 Wrote: We used to play chicken with them and see who could stand closest to the ring when the Jart was thrown

(12-02-2024, 11:09 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/joe-burrow-just-put-the-bengals-on-notice-after-latest-loss/ar-AA1v7aIL?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Reading this kinda got me wondering. How much influence will Joe have on next seasons roster? Coaching changes? Who the OC is? Even players on defense? Just on and on. It's something for him to state in public we'll see who needs to stay and who doesn't.

This team obviously needs a reboot on defense but the offense needs much change as well IMHO. Yes I know near the top on offensive stats. But I still believe it's a bit of a mirage because Joe Burrow and Chase are the ultimate mascara.

In other words we can be way more efficient with some changes.

(12-02-2024, 03:47 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Seasons a QB has had 30+ pass TD & 5 or fewer INTs through first 12 games
W-L
2024: Joe Burrow 4-8
2020: Aaron Rodgers 9-3
2020: Patrick Mahomes 11-1
2018: Drew… pic.twitter.com/sPmts6Z7gp

— NFL on CBS ? (@NFLonCBS) December 2, 2024

It’s enough to make you sick.

(12-02-2024, 04:35 PM)R3stangs Wrote: I love that 'massive change is inevitable' comment in that article. Obviously written by someone not familiar with the Bengals. 

(12-02-2024, 02:41 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: At least I think Joe has a ton of say, way more than Carson did. I think we will see changes, the Defensives staff should all be let go. Pollack 
should be let go as his young players have not improved at all and Cappa, Jonah and even Karras have regressed. Orlando wasn't good last 
year but he is better this year and I think that is more because of him than coaching. Mims is very talented and polished for a rookie.

(12-02-2024, 04:51 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Influence may be a better word but I agree. I mean I don't think Joe is going to go into a Front Office post season meeting and pound on the table demanding a new whatever? I don't think the Brown family will just say "Joe, you're running the show, what do you want?"

But I do feel they will listen to what Joe has to say (he's that kinda guy) and probably will act on some of it. And I can see JB, behind closed doors, having a big influence. 

Joe's not gonna come out in public and say the interior Olinemen suck, the defense is putridly awful, Stone is a joke at S, we have no DT's, and on and on.

But I feel when he talks, people listen. 

(12-02-2024, 03:47 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: That's the funny thing. When we started winning and went to the SB...Katie and Troy and Tobin got the praise. Now, people are saying MB is running things.

No one knows really!!!

(12-02-2024, 04:01 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Wasn't Turner the one that the other coaches installed a new blocking scheme over the Bye week?

https://www.cincyjungle.com/2019/11/14/20962159/bengals-weekly-lineman-the-transition-to-a-gap-style-blocking-scheme

(12-02-2024, 05:02 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Mike Brown knows he doesn't run this franchise like a normal NFL franchise is run, so I'm not sure Burrow telling him stuff is going to make a difference.  It isn't like Burrow is going to go in there and educate Mike Brown on how to run a team and he's going to say "Woah, I never thought of that...I'll do that right now!"

MB knows what he isn't doing, the only chip any player, Burrow or otherwise, has is to threaten him or give him an ultimatum and you can't do that if you are bluffing.  Unless Burrow is willing to pull a Palmer, I don't see how Burrow trying to strong arm the boss is going to be any different this time.

Or maybe it will be and Mike Brown will admit that Sam Wyche, Boomer Esiason, Corey Dillion, Carson Palmer and so on and so forth just weren't good enough at football to change his style for but Burrow is.

(12-02-2024, 04:51 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Influence may be a better word but I agree. I mean I don't think Joe is going to go into a Front Office post season meeting and pound on the table demanding a new whatever? I don't think the Brown family will just say "Joe, you're running the show, what do you want?"

But I do feel they will listen to what Joe has to say (he's that kinda guy) and probably will act on some of it. And I can see JB, behind closed doors, having a big influence. 

Joe's not gonna come out in public and say the interior Olinemen suck, the defense is putridly awful, Stone is a joke at S, we have no DT's, and on and on.

But I feel when he talks, people listen. 

(12-02-2024, 05:27 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: That's nothing new ....Bill Lazor had to tell Piano Man to sit down and shut up too. This shit has been going on for decades.

(12-02-2024, 05:35 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: But the irony there is Alexander was actually a very good coach for a long time. Lazor was pretty much a disaster of an OC everywhere he went.

(12-02-2024, 05:02 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Mike Brown knows he doesn't run this franchise like a normal NFL franchise is run, so I'm not sure Burrow telling him stuff is going to make a difference.  It isn't like Burrow is going to go in there and educate Mike Brown on how to run a team and he's going to say "Woah, I never thought of that...I'll do that right now!"

MB knows what he isn't doing, the only chip any player, Burrow or otherwise, has is to threaten him or give him an ultimatum and you can't do that if you are bluffing.  Unless Burrow is willing to pull a Palmer, I don't see how Burrow trying to strong arm the boss is going to be any different this time.

Or maybe it will be and Mike Brown will admit that Sam Wyche, Boomer Esiason, Corey Dillion, Carson Palmer and so on and so forth just weren't good enough at football to change his style for but Burrow is.