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RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-01-2023
Thought I'd give this another shot after Day 3 draft picks. Adding 5 more players. Still have 2 holes at QB2 and OG4. Though an already signed player probably takes OG4.
I. 53 Man Roster: Signed Players = 63.
A. Offense = 29
1. QB (1): Burrow
2. RB (4): Mixon; T. Williams (KR1), C. Brown, Evans (KR2)
3. WR (8): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Irwin, Morgan, Jones (PR), Iosivas, Taylor (PR)
4. TE (3): I. Smith, Jr., D. Sample, Asiasi
5. OT (7): Brown, J. Williams; Collins (I), Carman, Ford, Adeniji, D. Smith.
6. OG (3): Cappa, Volson; Scharping
7. C (3): Karras, T. Hill, Brown.
B. Defense = 30
1. DE (7): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample, Basham, Gunter
2. NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
3. LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; ASG, Bailey, Bachie
4. CB (8): Awuzie (I), CTB, Hilton; Turner, Jones, George, J. Davis, Ivey
5. S (5): D. Hill, Scott; Battle, Anderson, Thomas
C. Special Teams = 4.
1. PK (1). McPherson.
2. P (2): Robbins, Chrisman
3. LS (1): Adomitis
II. Practice Squad Players = 12.
1. Jake Browning, QB
2. Kwamie Lassiter, WR
3. Tanner Hudson, TE
4. Nick Bowers, TE
5. Devin Cochran, OT
6. Nate Gilliam, G
7. Raymond Johnson III, DE
8. Owen Carney, DE
9. Dominique Davis, DT
10. Keandre Jones, LB
11. Marvell Tell, CB
12. Yusuf Corker, S
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Projected 53:
QB (2): Burrow; QB2 (not Browning)
RB (4): Mixon; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Jones, Iosivas, Morgan
TE (3): Smith, D. Sample, Asiasi
OT (4): O. Brown, Williams; Carman, Collins
OG (4): Cappa, Volson; Scharping, Ford (OG/OT)
C (2): Karras; T. Hill
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DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample
DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; Davis-Gaither, Bailey, Bachie
CB (6): Awuzie, Taylor-Britt, Hilton; Turner, Jones, J. Davis (slot2)
S (4): Scott, D. Hill; Battle, Anderson
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PK (1): McPherson
P (1): Robbins
LS (1): Adomitis
Signed guys on outside looking in = 10.
1. Irwin, WR (close with Iosivas)
2. Taylor, WR
3. Adeniji, OT
4. Smith, OT
5. B. Brown, C
6. Basham, DE
7. Gunter, DE
8. George, CB
9. Thomas, S (PS, protected)
10. Chrisman, P
Collins likely starts the year on IR/PUP, so that would open up an OT spot for Adeniji/Smith. With the new PS rules, some vets can stick there (Thomas, Basham). IIRC, you can have 6 vets and 4 protected players on the PS. 4 protected: #5 safety (Thomas/Anderson), Iosivas (if Irwin beats him out), Basham, + Smith/ Adeniji loser.
I wai a few says until the UDFAs are done. We are up to 75. Room for 15 more for camp. Pally has a great list going in another thread.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-02-2023
OK, gonna give the Roster a shot. The UDFA dust seems to have settled.
We have 67 players signed. 13 of which are guys who have thus far only been in the Practice Squad for us. I put these 13 in a separate list. Don't discount them entirely, Browning is QB2 atm. I also included the number of accrued years for each player, as PS rules limit the # of PS players with more than 2 years to 6. 10 have to have 2 or less. And we have 8 draftees I have put in with the 67 signed guys. 67 + 8 = 75. We signed 9 UDFAs. 84 total. I believe we can carry 90 into camp. 4 guys are dealing with injuries and may not bexready for camp: Collins, Ossai, J. Williams, and Awuzie.
I. Signed Players = 54 + 8 draftees = 62
A. Offense = 28
1. QB (1): Burrow
2. RB (4): Mixon; T. Williams (KR1), C. Brown, Evans (KR2)
3. WR (8): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Irwin, Morgan, Jones (PR), Iosivas, Taylor (PR)
4. TE (3): I. Smith, Jr., D. Sample, Asiasi
5. OT (7): O. Brown, J. Williams; Collins (I), Carman, Ford, Adeniji, D. Smith.
6. OG (3): Cappa, Volson; Scharping
7. C (2): Karras, T. Hill
B. Defense = 30
1. DE (7): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample, Basham, Gunter
2. NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
3. LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; ASG, Bailey, Bachie
4. CB (8): Awuzie (I), CTB, Hilton; Turner, Jones, George, J. Davis, Ivey
5. S (5): D. Hill, Scott; Battle, Anderson, Thomas
C. Special Teams = 4.
1. PK (1). McPherson.
2. P (2): Robbins, Chrisman
3. LS (1): Adomitis
II. Practice Squad Players = 13 (75)
1. Jake Browning, QB [R]
2. Kwamie Lassiter, WR [1]
3. Tanner Hudson, TE [4]
4. Nick Bowers, TE [2]
5. Devin Cochran, OT [R]
6. Nate Gilliam, G [R]
7. B. Brown, C/G [R]
8. Raymond Johnson III, DE [3]
9. Owen Carney, DE [R]
10. Dominique Davis, DT [1]
11. Keandre Jones, LB [3]
12. Marvell Tell, CB [4]
13. Yusuf Corker, S [R]
III. UDFA's = 9 (84).
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State [R]
2. Calvin Tyler, Jr., RB, Utah State [R]
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn [R]
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston [R]
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington [R]
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga [R]
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama [R]
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke [R]
9. Larry Brooks III, S, Tulane [R]
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Post is long enough. I will take a swing at projecting the roster, and practice squad, in a bit. Will go position group by position group first.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-02-2023
OK, this section updated with 8 draftees and 9 UDFA's. I won't put contract info in for draftees or UDFAs until/if they sign.
New Signings = 6.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract Length/Amount, Dead Cap
1. Orlando Brown, LT, $10,398,000; 4 yrs/$64,092,000; $31.1 mil
2. Nick Scott, SS, $2,388,235; 3 yrs/$12 mil; $3 mil
3. Irv Smith Jr., TE, $1.75 mil (up to $2 mil); 1 year, Unknown
4. Sidney Jones, CB, $990,000, 1 year, $0
5. Tarell Basham, DE/OLB, $961,000; 1 year; $0
6. Cody Ford, OT/OG, $940,000, 1 year; $0
Re-Signed = 9.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract length/value; Dead Cap
1. Germaine Pratt, LB, $5,403,921; 3 yrs/$20,250,000; $7 mil
2. Max Scharping, OG, $1,280,000, 1 year; $175k
3. Jalen Davis, CB, $1,205,000; 2 yrs/$2,430,000; $150k
4. Joe Bachie, LB, $1,160,000; 1 yr; $75k
5. Trayveon Williams, RB/KR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
6. Trent Taylor, WR/PR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
7. Drew Sample, TE, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
8. Michael Thomas, S, $940,000; 1 yr; $0
9. Cal Adomitis, LS, $870,000; 1 yr; $0
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/
Drafted = 8.
1. Miles Murphy, DE, Clemson, Rd 1, #28
2. DJ Turner, CB, Michigan, Rd 2, #60
3. Jordan Battle, S, Alabama, Rd 3, #95
4. Charlie Jones, WR/PR, Purdue, Rd 4, #131
5. Chase Brown, RB, Illinois, Rd 5, #163
6. Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton, Rd 6, #206
7. Brad Robbins, P, Michigan, Rd 6, #217
8. DJ Ivey, CB, U. of Miami, Rd 7, #246
UDFAs = 9.
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State
2. Calvin Tyler, RB, Utah State
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke
9. Larry Brooks, S, Tulane
Got Away = 4.
1. Jessie Bates, FS, $9,500,000; 4 yrs/$64,020,000
2. Vonn Bell, SS, $3,110,000; 3 yrs/$22,500,000
3. Hayden Hurst, TE, $3,136,666; 3 yrs/$21,750,000
4. Samjae Perine, RB, $3,000,000; 2 yrs/$7,500,000
Still Unsigned = 7.
1. Eli Apple, CB
2. Tre Flowers, CB
3. Brandon Allen, QB
4. Mitchell Wilcox, TE
5. Clay Johnston, LB
6. Brandon Wilson, S/KR
7. Chris Lammons, CB
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - ochocincos - 05-02-2023
This is my projected 53 barring any injuries and the season started today.
QB (2) - Burrow, Browning
RB (4) - Mixon, *Brown, Williams, Evans
TE (3) - Smith, Sample, Asiasi
WR (7) - Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Irwin, *Jones, *Iosivas, Morgan
OT (4) - Brown, Williams, Carman, Ford
OG (3) - Cappa, Volson, ^Scharping
OC (2) - Karras, Hill
^I could see Scharping getting the axe potentially if/when Collins returns, as they have multiple OTs who can play OG if needed
DE (6) - Hendrickson, Hubbard, Ossai, *Murphy, Sample, ^Basham
DT (4) - Hill, Reader, Carter, Tupou
LB (5) - Pratt, Wilson, ADG, Bailey, Bachie
SAF (4) - Hill, Scott, *Battle, Anderson
CB (6) - Awuzie, CTB, Hilton, *Turner, Jones, Davis
^I could also see Bengals going 5 DE and 5 DT, keeping Tufele instead
K (1) - McPherson
LS (1) - Adomitis
P (1) - *Robbins
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-02-2023
(05-02-2023, 02:24 PM)ochocincos Wrote: This is my projected 53 barring any injuries and the season started today.
QB (2) - Burrow, Browning
RB (4) - Mixon, *Brown, Williams, Evans
TE (3) - Smith, Sample, Asiasi
WR (7) - Chase, Higgins, Boyd, Irwin, *Jones, *Iosivas, Morgan
OT (4) - Brown, Williams, Carman, Ford
OG (3) - Cappa, Volson, ^Scharping
OC (2) - Karras, Hill
^I could see Scharping getting the axe potentially if/when Collins returns, as they have multiple OTs who can play OG if needed
DE (6) - Hendrickson, Hubbard, Ossai, *Murphy, Sample, ^Basham
DT (4) - Hill, Reader, Carter, Tupou
LB (5) - Pratt, Wilson, ADG, Bailey, Bachie
SAF (4) - Hill, Scott, *Battle, Anderson
CB (6) - Awuzie, CTB, Hilton, *Turner, Jones, Davis
^I could also see Bengals going 5 DE and 5 DT, keeping Tufele instead
K (1) - McPherson
LS (1) - Adomitis
P (1) - *Robbins
We are almost in complete agreement. One different at WR, OT, DE, DT.
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Mixon; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; C. Jones, Iosivas, Morgan.
TE (3): I. Smith; D. Sample, Asiasi
OT (4): O. Brown, J. Williams; Carman, Adeniji (Collins on PUP)
OG (4): Cappa, Volson; Scharping, Ford (OG/OT)
C (2): Karras; T. Hill
Collins starts on PUP, allowing Adeniji to make the roster. I have Ford as both the #4 OT and #4 OG. I think Scharping is safe as OG#3. Adeniji & Carman cannot play guard, at all. Ford is bad, but they are worse. I only keep 6 WRs. Irwin did not make the final roster in 2022 or 2021. I think he battles with Morgan for the last spot. If Iosivas shows good ST/blocking development, Morgan goes, but if the route running is good, it will be Irwin. If other guys can take over the Morgan role on ST (Battle, Anderson) then maybe Irwin stays too. He is the better receiver. I am tempted to say Jackson flat out takes the Morgan spot, but I am not sure there is a Morgan spot.
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample
NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bailey, Bachie
CB (6): Awuzie, CTB, Hilton; Turner, S. Jones, J. Davis
S (4): Scott, D. Hill; Battle, Anderson
I think we want 3 guys whi can play nose on the 53, but if we think Tufele has a better chance to pass waivers than Basham, then maybe the other way. Mike Thomas is the other cruelist cut, but he passed waivers last year.
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis
KR: T. Williams, C. Jones, Evans
PR: C. Jones
Holder: Robbins
Practice Squad (if no one gets claimed):
1. Basham, DE (Vet #1)
2. Thomas, S (Vet #2)
3. Irwin, WR (Vet #3)
4. Taylor, WR (Vet #4)
5. Gunter, DE
6. Ivey, CB
7. George, CB
8. Jackson, WR
9. Smith, OT
10. Kirkland, OG
11. B. Brown, C/G
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12. QB (not on roster yet)
13. Best camp RB (Saylors)
14. Best camp DT (Maxwell)
15. Best LB (K. Jones, Vet #5)
16. Best TE (Bowers, Vet #6)
I think Wilcox will be re-signed and make the roster, and bump Asiasi down to the PS. Not happened yet.
15 competing for PS spots:
1. Tyler, RB
2. Lassiter, WR
3. Hudson, TE
4. Trahan, TE
5. Cochrane, OT
6. Gilliam, OG/C
7. Johnson III, DE
8. Carney, DE
9. D. Davis, DT
10. Moody, LB
11. Heyward, LB
12. Tell III, CB
13. Corker, S
14. Brooks, S
15. Chrisman, P
I am sure some of our last cuts/PS guys will get claimed and some of these guys will make it.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - pally - 05-02-2023
Officially none of those UDFA's have been announced yet. We are still going off of Twitter announcements. They are not yet listed on the roster
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - ochocincos - 05-02-2023
(05-02-2023, 04:00 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We are almost in complete agreement. One different at WR, OT, DE, DT.I pray that Adeniji does not make the roster.
QB (2): Burrow; Browning
RB (4): Mixon; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; C. Jones, Iosivas, Morgan.
TE (3): I. Smith; D. Sample, Asiasi
OT (4): O. Brown, J. Williams; Carman, Adeniji (Collins on PUP)
OG (4): Cappa, Volson; Scharping, Ford (OG/OT)
C (2): Karras; T. Hill
Collins starts on PUP, allowing Adeniji to make the roster. I have Ford as both the #4 OT and #4 OG. I think Scharping is safe as OG#3. Adeniji & Carman cannot play guard, at all. Ford is bad, but they are worse. I only keep 6 WRs. Irwin did not make the final roster in 2022 or 2021. I think he battles with Morgan for the last spot. If Iosivas shows good ST/blocking development, Morgan goes, but if the route running is good, it will be Irwin. If other guys can take over the Morgan role on ST (Battle, Anderson) then maybe Irwin stays too. He is the better receiver. I am tempted to say Jackson flat out takes the Morgan spot, but I am not sure there is a Morgan spot.
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample
NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; ADG, Bailey, Bachie
CB (6): Awuzie, CTB, Hilton; Turner, S. Jones, J. Davis
S (4): Scott, D. Hill; Battle, Anderson
I think we want 3 guys whi can play nose on the 53, but if we think Tufele has a better chance to pass waivers than Basham, then maybe the other way. Mike Thomas is the other cruelist cut, but he passed waivers last year.
PK: McPherson
P: Robbins
LS: Adomitis
KR: T. Williams, C. Jones, Evans
PR: C. Jones
Holder: Robbins
Practice Squad (if no one gets claimed):
1. Basham, DE (Vet #1)
2. Thomas, S (Vet #2)
3. Irwin, WR (Vet #3)
4. Taylor, WR (Vet #4)
5. Gunter, DE
6. Ivey, CB
7. George, CB
8. Jackson, WR
9. Smith, OT
10. Kirkland, OG
11. B. Brown, C/G
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12. QB (not on roster yet)
13. Best camp RB (Saylors)
14. Best camp DT (Maxwell)
15. Best LB (K. Jones, Vet #5)
16. Best TE (Bowers, Vet #6)
I think Wilcox will be re-signed and make the roster, and bump Asiasi down to the PS. Not happened yet.
15 competing for PS spots:
1. Tyler, RB
2. Lassiter, WR
3. Hudson, TE
4. Trahan, TE
5. Cochrane, OT
6. Gilliam, OG/C
7. Johnson III, DE
8. Carney, DE
9. D. Davis, DT
10. Moody, LB
11. Heyward, LB
12. Tell III, CB
13. Corker, S
14. Brooks, S
15. Chrisman, P
I am sure some of our last cuts/PS guys will get claimed and some of these guys will make it.
I've seen that dude get pushed back on rollerskates for 3 years straight now, ain't nothin changed.
I'd rather roll with a 7th WR than see Adeniji make the team.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-02-2023
(05-02-2023, 04:12 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I pray that Adeniji does not make the roster.
I've seen that dude get pushed back on rollerskates for 3 years straight now, ain't nothin changed.
I'd rather roll with a 7th WR than see Adeniji make the team.
That is completely understandable.
Assuming Collins is still out, I'd go 7th WR (Irwin/Jackson), 6th DE (Basham/Gunter), 5th safety (Thomas), 7th corner (Ivey, George).
I must admit, going light on OL did not really even occur to me.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-02-2023
(05-02-2023, 04:08 PM)pally Wrote: Officially none of those UDFA's have been announced yet. We are still going off of Twitter announcements. They are not yet listed on the roster
Appreciated. Heck, the picks aren't signed yet either. I jumped the gun a bit there. But I will keep the UDFAs in a different area, even after officially signed.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - pulses - 05-02-2023
(05-01-2023, 10:54 AM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Thought I'd give this another shot after Day 3 draft picks. Adding 5 more players. Still have 2 holes at QB2 and OG4. Though an already signed player probably takes OG4.Taylor doesn't make the 53 this year and Lassiter does.
I. 53 Man Roster: Signed Players = 63.
A. Offense = 29
1. QB (1): Burrow
2. RB (4): Mixon; T. Williams (KR1), C. Brown, Evans (KR2)
3. WR (8): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Irwin, Morgan, Jones (PR), Iosivas, Taylor (PR)
4. TE (3): I. Smith, Jr., D. Sample, Asiasi
5. OT (7): Brown, J. Williams; Collins (I), Carman, Ford, Adeniji, D. Smith.
6. OG (3): Cappa, Volson; Scharping
7. C (3): Karras, T. Hill, Brown.
B. Defense = 30
1. DE (7): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample, Basham, Gunter
2. NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
3. LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; ASG, Bailey, Bachie
4. CB (8): Awuzie (I), CTB, Hilton; Turner, Jones, George, J. Davis, Ivey
5. S (5): D. Hill, Scott; Battle, Anderson, Thomas
C. Special Teams = 4.
1. PK (1). McPherson.
2. P (2): Robbins, Chrisman
3. LS (1): Adomitis
II. Practice Squad Players = 12.
1. Jake Browning, QB
2. Kwamie Lassiter, WR
3. Tanner Hudson, TE
4. Nick Bowers, TE
5. Devin Cochran, OT
6. Nate Gilliam, G
7. Raymond Johnson III, DE
8. Owen Carney, DE
9. Dominique Davis, DT
10. Keandre Jones, LB
11. Marvell Tell, CB
12. Yusuf Corker, S
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Projected 53:
QB (2): Burrow; QB2 (not Browning)
RB (4): Mixon; C. Brown, T. Williams, Evans
WR (6): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Jones, Iosivas, Morgan
TE (3): Smith, D. Sample, Asiasi
OT (4): O. Brown, Williams; Carman, Collins
OG (4): Cappa, Volson; Scharping, Ford (OG/OT)
C (2): Karras; T. Hill
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DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample
DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
LB (5): Wilson, Pratt; Davis-Gaither, Bailey, Bachie
CB (6): Awuzie, Taylor-Britt, Hilton; Turner, Jones, J. Davis (slot2)
S (4): Scott, D. Hill; Battle, Anderson
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PK (1): McPherson
P (1): Robbins
LS (1): Adomitis
Signed guys on outside looking in = 10.
1. Irwin, WR (close with Iosivas)
2. Taylor, WR
3. Adeniji, OT
4. Smith, OT
5. B. Brown, C
6. Basham, DE
7. Gunter, DE
8. George, CB
9. Thomas, S (PS, protected)
10. Chrisman, P
Collins likely starts the year on IR/PUP, so that would open up an OT spot for Adeniji/Smith. With the new PS rules, some vets can stick there (Thomas, Basham). IIRC, you can have 6 vets and 4 protected players on the PS. 4 protected: #5 safety (Thomas/Anderson), Iosivas (if Irwin beats him out), Basham, + Smith/ Adeniji loser.
I wai a few says until the UDFAs are done. We are up to 75. Room for 15 more for camp. Pally has a great list going in another thread.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - dxdtdemon - 05-03-2023
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but if Kirkland can get through camp and the preseason healthy, I think he makes the 53 man roster instead of either Adeniji or Ford.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-03-2023
(05-03-2023, 12:30 AM)dxdtdemon Wrote: Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but if Kirkland can get through camp and the preseason healthy, I think he makes the 53 man roster instead of either Adeniji or Ford.
Yeah. He is a nore natural guard, that is for sure. Have him on my PS, but that would be wonderful.
I know we really liked Ben Brown in camp last year before the injury. No idea where he stands, either. A surprise OL energence likely comes from either of those two.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-03-2023
Brandon Allen to the 49ers.
https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1653731073539358731?cxt=HHwWloC2hcnpnfMtAAAA
New Signings = 6.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract Length/Amount, Dead Cap
1. Orlando Brown, LT, $10,398,000; 4 yrs/$64,092,000; $31.1 mil
2. Nick Scott, SS, $2,388,235; 3 yrs/$12 mil; $3 mil
3. Irv Smith Jr., TE, $1.75 mil (up to $2 mil); 1 year, Unknown
4. Sidney Jones, CB, $990,000, 1 year, $0
5. Tarell Basham, DE/OLB, $961,000; 1 year; $0
6. Cody Ford, OT/OG, $940,000, 1 year; $0
Re-Signed = 9.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract length/value; Dead Cap
1. Germaine Pratt, LB, $5,403,921; 3 yrs/$20,250,000; $7 mil
2. Max Scharping, OG, $1,280,000, 1 year; $175k
3. Jalen Davis, CB, $1,205,000; 2 yrs/$2,430,000; $150k
4. Joe Bachie, LB, $1,160,000; 1 yr; $75k
5. Trayveon Williams, RB/KR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
6. Trent Taylor, WR/PR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
7. Drew Sample, TE, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
8. Michael Thomas, S, $940,000; 1 yr; $0
9. Cal Adomitis, LS, $870,000; 1 yr; $0
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/
Drafted = 8.
1. Miles Murphy, DE, Clemson, Rd 1, #28
2. DJ Turner, CB, Michigan, Rd 2, #60
3. Jordan Battle, S, Alabama, Rd 3, #95
4. Charlie Jones, WR/PR, Purdue, Rd 4, #131
5. Chase Brown, RB, Illinois, Rd 5, #163
6. Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton, Rd 6, #206
7. Brad Robbins, P, Michigan, Rd 6, #217
8. DJ Ivey, CB, U. of Miami, Rd 7, #246
UDFAs = 9.
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State
2. Calvin Tyler, RB, Utah State
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke
9. Larry Brooks, S, Tulane
Got Away = 4.
1. Jessie Bates, FS, $9,500,000; 4 yrs/$64,020,000
2. Vonn Bell, SS, $3,110,000; 3 yrs/$22,500,000
3. Hayden Hurst, TE, $3,136,666; 3 yrs/$21,750,000
4. Samjae Perine, RB, $3,000,000; 2 yrs/$7,500,000
Gone = 1
1. Brandon Allen, QB, 49ers
Still Unsigned = 6.
1. Eli Apple, CB
2. Tre Flowers, CB
3. Mitchell Wilcox, TE
4. Clay Johnston, LB
5. Brandon Wilson, S/KR
6 . Chris Lammons, CB
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - psychdoctor - 05-03-2023
I project that Ben Brown will displace trey Hill as the backup center.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-03-2023
QB Trevor Siemian to the Bengals.
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2023/5/3/23709795/trevor-siemian-bengals-news-brandon-allen-49ers-nfl-news-rumors
New Signings = 7
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract Length/Amount, Dead Cap
1. Orlando Brown, LT, $10,398,000; 4 yrs/$64,092,000; $31.1 mil
2. Nick Scott, SS, $2,388,235; 3 yrs/$12 mil; $3 mil
3. Irv Smith Jr., TE, $1.75 mil (up to $2 mil); 1 year, Unknown
4. Sidney Jones, CB, $990,000, 1 year, $0
5. Tarell Basham, DE/OLB, $961,000; 1 year; $0
6. Cody Ford, OT/OG, $940,000, 1 year; $0
7. Trevor Siemian, QB, unknown $$, 1 year, unknown
Re-Signed = 9.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract length/value; Dead Cap
1. Germaine Pratt, LB, $5,403,921; 3 yrs/$20,250,000; $7 mil
2. Max Scharping, OG, $1,280,000, 1 year; $175k
3. Jalen Davis, CB, $1,205,000; 2 yrs/$2,430,000; $150k
4. Joe Bachie, LB, $1,160,000; 1 yr; $75k
5. Trayveon Williams, RB/KR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
6. Trent Taylor, WR/PR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
7. Drew Sample, TE, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
8. Michael Thomas, S, $940,000; 1 yr; $0
9. Cal Adomitis, LS, $870,000; 1 yr; $0
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/
Drafted = 8.
1. Miles Murphy, DE, Clemson, Rd 1, #28
2. DJ Turner, CB, Michigan, Rd 2, #60
3. Jordan Battle, S, Alabama, Rd 3, #95
4. Charlie Jones, WR/PR, Purdue, Rd 4, #131
5. Chase Brown, RB, Illinois, Rd 5, #163
6. Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton, Rd 6, #206
7. Brad Robbins, P, Michigan, Rd 6, #217
8. DJ Ivey, CB, U. of Miami, Rd 7, #246
UDFAs = 9.
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State
2. Calvin Tyler, RB, Utah State
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke
9. Larry Brooks, S, Tulane
Got Away = 4.
1. Jessie Bates, FS, $9,500,000; 4 yrs/$64,020,000
2. Vonn Bell, SS, $3,110,000; 3 yrs/$22,500,000
3. Hayden Hurst, TE, $3,136,666; 3 yrs/$21,750,000
4. Samjae Perine, RB, $3,000,000; 2 yrs/$7,500,000
Gone = 1
1. Brandon Allen, QB, 49ers
Still Unsigned = 6.
1. Eli Apple, CB
2. Tre Flowers, CB
3. Mitchell Wilcox, TE
4. Clay Johnston, LB
5. Brandon Wilson, S/KR
6. Chris Lammons, CB
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-03-2023
OK, post Siemian signing.
I. Signed Players = 55 + 8 draftees = 63
A. Offense = 29
1. QB (2): Burrow, Siemian
2. RB (4): Mixon; T. Williams (KR1), C. Brown, Evans (KR2)
3. WR (8): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Irwin, Morgan, Jones (PR), Iosivas, Taylor (PR)
4. TE (3): I. Smith, Jr., D. Sample, Asiasi
5. OT (7): O. Brown, J. Williams; Collins (I), Carman, Ford, Adeniji, D. Smith.
6. OG (3): Cappa, Volson; Scharping
7. C (2): Karras, T. Hill
B. Defense = 30
1. DE (7): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample, Basham, Gunter
2. NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
3. LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; ASG, Bailey, Bachie
4. CB (8): Awuzie (I), CTB, Hilton; Turner, Jones, George, J. Davis, Ivey
5. S (5): D. Hill, Scott; Battle, Anderson, Thomas
C. Special Teams = 4.
1. PK (1). McPherson.
2. P (2): Robbins, Chrisman
3. LS (1): Adomitis
II. Practice Squad Players = 13 (76)
1. Jake Browning, QB [R]
2. Kwamie Lassiter, WR [1]
3. Tanner Hudson, TE [4]
4. Nick Bowers, TE [2]
5. Devin Cochran, OT [R]
6. Nate Gilliam, G [R]
7. B. Brown, C/G [R]
8. Raymond Johnson III, DE [3]
9. Owen Carney, DE [R]
10. Dominique Davis, DT [1]
11. Keandre Jones, LB [3]
12. Marvell Tell, CB [4]
13. Yusuf Corker, S [R]
III. UDFA's = 9 (85).
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State [R]
2. Calvin Tyler, Jr., RB, Utah State [R]
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn [R]
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston [R]
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington [R]
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga [R]
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama [R]
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke [R]
9. Larry Brooks III, S, Tulane [R]
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RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-03-2023
New, improved, roster breakdown.
A. Projected Starters = 25.
Offense: Burrow; Mixon; Chase, Higgins, Boyd; I. Smith; O. Brown, Volson, Karras, Cappa, J. Williams.
Defense: Hendrickson, Reader, BJ Hill, Hubbard; Wilson, Pratt; Awuzie, CTB, Hilton; Scott, D. Hill
Specials: McPherson; Robbins; Adomitis
B. Key Reserves/Roster Shoe-Ins = 11 (36)
RB: T. Williams, C. Brown
WR: C. Jones
OT: Carman, Collins (if healthy)
DE: Murphy, Ossai
LB: ADG, Bailey
CB: DJ Turner
S: Battle
C. One Guy Below Them on Depth Chart/Near Locks = 3 (39)
TE: D. Sample
OG: Scharping
DT: Tupou
D. Inner Roster Fringe: Good Bets but No One Below = 8 (47)
QB: Siemian
WR: Iosivas
C: T. Hill
DE: C. Sample
NT: Tufele
DT: Carter
LB: Bachie
S: Anderson
E. Outer Fringe: In if I picked today, after Camp? = 6 (53)
RB: Evans
WR: Morgan
TE: Asiasi
OG: Ford
CB (outside): S. Jones
CB (slot): J. Davis
* Collins is probably not going to ready to play, so he'll likely go th PUP.
F. Best Shot to Nab Collins' Spot and/or Beat Someone Out = 16
1. Adeniji, OT
2. Smith, OT
3. Irwin, WR
4. Basham, DE
5. Thomas, S
6. George, CB
7. Ivey, CB
8. Gunter, DE
9. Chrisman, P
10. Browning, QB
11. Kirkland, OG
12. Taylor, WR/KR
13. Jackson, WR
14. Maxwell, DT
15. Saylors, RB
16. Brown, C/OG
G. Making Practice Squad Would Be Great
1. Tyler, RB
2. Lassiter, WR
3. Hudson, TE
4. Bowers, TE
5. Trafan, TE
6. Cochrane, OT
7. Gilliam, OG/C
8. Johnson III, DE
9. Carney, DE
10. D. Davis, DT
11. K. Jones, LB
12. Moody, LB
13. Heyward, LB
14. Tell III, CB
15. Corker, S
16. Brooks III, S
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-05-2023
Updated eith news that the team did not ask 6 UFA's to sign: LS Harris, QB Allen, CB Apple, CB Flowers, S B. Wilson, CB Lammons
https://www.bengals.com/team/transactions/#:~:text=The%20following%20six%20unrestricted%20free,Lammons%20and%20S%20Brandon%20Wilson.
New Signings = 7
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract Length/Amount, Dead Cap
1. Orlando Brown, LT, $10,398,000; 4 yrs/$64,092,000; $31.1 mil
2. Nick Scott, SS, $2,388,235; 3 yrs/$12 mil; $3 mil
3. Irv Smith Jr., TE, $1.75 mil (up to $2 mil); 1 year, Unknown
4. Sidney Jones, CB, $990,000, 1 year, $0
5. Tarell Basham, DE/OLB, $961,000; 1 year; $0
6. Cody Ford, OT/OG, $940,000, 1 year; $0
7. Trevor Siemian, QB, unknown $$, 1 year, unknown
Re-Signed = 9.
Player, Position, 2023 Cap Hit; Contract length/value; Dead Cap
1. Germaine Pratt, LB, $5,403,921; 3 yrs/$20,250,000; $7 mil
2. Max Scharping, OG, $1,280,000, 1 year; $175k
3. Jalen Davis, CB, $1,205,000; 2 yrs/$2,430,000; $150k
4. Joe Bachie, LB, $1,160,000; 1 yr; $75k
5. Trayveon Williams, RB/KR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
6. Trent Taylor, WR/PR, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
7. Drew Sample, TE, $1,092,500; 1 yr; $52,500
8. Michael Thomas, S, $940,000; 1 yr; $0
9. Cal Adomitis, LS, $870,000; 1 yr; $0
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cincinnati-bengals
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/cap/
Drafted = 8.
1. Miles Murphy, DE, Clemson, Rd 1, #28
2. DJ Turner, CB, Michigan, Rd 2, #60
3. Jordan Battle, S, Alabama, Rd 3, #95
4. Charlie Jones, WR/PR, Purdue, Rd 4, #131
5. Chase Brown, RB, Illinois, Rd 5, #163
6. Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton, Rd 6, #206
7. Brad Robbins, P, Michigan, Rd 6, #217
8. DJ Ivey, CB, U. of Miami, Rd 7, #246
UDFAs = 9.
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State
2. Calvin Tyler, RB, Utah State
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn
4. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston
5. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington
6. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga
7. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama
8. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke
9. Larry Brooks, S, Tulane
Got Away = 4.
1. Jessie Bates, FS, $9,500,000; 4 yrs/$64,020,000
2. Vonn Bell, SS, $3,110,000; 3 yrs/$22,500,000
3. Hayden Hurst, TE, $3,136,666; 3 yrs/$21,750,000
4. Samjae Perine, RB, $3,000,000; 2 yrs/$7,500,000
Gone/Not Asked Back:
1. Brandon Allen, QB, 49ers
2. Eli Apple, CB
3. Tre Flowers, CB
4. Clark Harris, LS
5. Brandon Wilson, S/KR
6. Chris Lammons, CB
Still Unsigned = 2.
1. Mitchell Wilcox, TE
2. Clay Johnston, LB
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-08-2023
Flowers to Falcons.
RE: Current state of the Roster: 2023 FA - Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 - 05-12-2023
OK, all the draftees have been signed now (63 total) + the PS guys from last year who are under contract (13) & now 13 USFA's puts us at 89. 1 short of 90 max for camp.
I. Signed Players = 63
A. Offense = 29
1. QB (2): Burrow, Siemian
2. RB (4): Mixon; T. Williams (KR1), C. Brown, Evans (KR2)
3. WR (8): Chase, Higgins, Boyd; Irwin, Morgan, Jones (PR), Iosivas, Taylor (PR)
4. TE (3): I. Smith, Jr., D. Sample, Asiasi
5. OT (7): O. Brown, J. Williams; Collins (I), Carman, Ford, Adeniji, D. Smith.
6. OG (3): Cappa, Volson; Scharping
7. C (2): Karras, T. Hill
B. Defense = 30
1. DE (7): Hendrickson, Hubbard; Murphy, Ossai, C. Sample, Basham, Gunter
2. NT/DT (5): Reader, BJ Hill; Tupou, Carter, Tufele
3. LB (5): L. Wilson, Pratt; ASG, Bailey, Bachie
4. CB (8): Awuzie (I), CTB, Hilton; Turner, Jones, George, J. Davis, Ivey
5. S (5): D. Hill, Scott; Battle, Anderson, Thomas
C. Special Teams = 4.
1. PK (1). McPherson.
2. P (2): Robbins, Chrisman
3. LS (1): Adomitis
II. Practice Squad Players = 13 (76)
1. Jake Browning, QB [R]
2. Kwamie Lassiter, WR [1]
3. Tanner Hudson, TE [4]
4. Nick Bowers, TE [2]
5. Devin Cochran, OT [R]
6. Nate Gilliam, G [R]
7. B. Brown, C/G [R]
8. Raymond Johnson III, DE [3]
9. Owen Carney, DE [R]
10. Dominique Davis, DT [1]
11. Keandre Jones, LB [3]
12. Marvell Tell, CB [4]
13. Yusuf Corker, S [R]
III. UDFA's = 13 (89).
1. Jacob Saylors, RB, East Tennessee State [R]
2. Calvin Tyler, Jr., RB, Utah State [R]
3. Shedrick Jackson, WR, Auburn [R]
4. Malachi Carter, WR, Georgia Tecg [R]
5. Mac Hippenhammer, WR, Miami (OH) [R]
6. Christian Trahan, TE, Houston [R]
7. Jaxson Kirkland, OG, Washington [R]
8. Devonnsha Maxwell, DT, Tennessee-Chattanooga [R]
9. Tautala Pesefea, DT, Arizona State
10. Jaylen Moody, LB, Alabama [R]
11. Shaka Heyward, LB, Duke [R]
12. Tyler Murray, LB, Memphis
13. Larry Brooks III, S, Tulane [R]
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