(05-15-2025, 12:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I just don't get people who jump to extreme conclusions. I point out something that's not there and make the claim he's not going to be this great player you're trying to make him out to be, so i'm a hater and i want him to fail. He's a Cincinnati Bengal. I want him to succeed and be great. That doesn't mean i need to make stuff up and see what's not there. 

I don't go looking for reasons to substantiate my claim. I go looking for reasons to disprove it. When i can't find them...well, the truth is the truth. 

Of course he made some plays. You're going to see that with anyone. If you think he's this uber-disruptor from the videos i provided, i don't know what to tell you. The only thing i can do is wait for you to come to the conclusion that you're wrong. It would benefit us both if i was wrong and i won't be upset if i am. 

So, here we are. 

(05-15-2025, 10:36 AM)Sled21 Wrote: If any of this was even remotely the case, then why was he projected to go in the first round, and how was he the leader in pressures? It wasn't just the Bengals that wanted him. 

(05-15-2025, 12:49 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Total body of work. There's many more games than what i provided and it's based on everything. Plus, what happens at places like the Senior Bowl and combine can have huge effects on players draft position. 

I just showed games against the type of talent he will be facing every game and not the games against good ole Directional U. 

(05-15-2025, 01:04 PM)c766 Wrote: The Steelers were probably cackling when the bengals took Stewart over Harmon

(05-15-2025, 01:55 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They won't be cackling when he hits their QB....

(05-14-2025, 11:33 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Wow, comparing a 4th round OL to a 1st round End hoping for him to fail as well...

Sometimes I just don't get it.

Also, in the Notre Dame game, Stewart made tons of great plays and a lot of the big plays for the Irish were when #4 wasn't in the game.

Just proved once again how disruptive he can be if coached up properly.

(05-15-2025, 01:58 PM)jason Wrote: Exactly who on this team have the staff coached up properly? I guess if I squint I could argue it's Iosivas... Even then, that could've just been from way more opportunity with Tee being out, and Burton being outta line.

(05-15-2025, 12:28 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I just don't get people who jump to extreme conclusions. I point out something that's not there and make the claim he's not going to be this great player you're trying to make him out to be, so i'm a hater and i want him to fail. He's a Cincinnati Bengal. I want him to succeed and be great. That doesn't mean i need to make stuff up and see what's not there. 

I don't go looking for reasons to substantiate my claim. I go looking for reasons to disprove it. When i can't find them...well, the truth is the truth. 

Of course he made some plays. You're going to see that with anyone. If you think he's this uber-disruptor from the videos i provided, i don't know what to tell you. The only thing i can do is wait for you to come to the conclusion that you're wrong. It would benefit us both if i was wrong and i won't be upset if i am. 

So, here we are. 

(05-15-2025, 10:36 AM)Sled21 Wrote: If any of this was even remotely the case, then why was he projected to go in the first round, and how was he the leader in pressures? It wasn't just the Bengals that wanted him. 

(05-15-2025, 11:42 AM)CottonHill Wrote: There were two other NFL d linemen on that line, so he wasnt treated like a Bosa or Carter. Also, that defense was still terrible. 

(05-15-2025, 02:19 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yes he was, Stewart was the one Offenses doubled and chipped the most. Watch the damn film. Scourton benefitted from a lot of Stewart's 
disruption and you can see this in the film as well. We will see who will be the better pro, my bet is on Stewart.

(05-15-2025, 01:54 PM)Sled21 Wrote: And you don't think the experts looked at the same film you did? I'm sorry, I'm not following the logic here. Teams looked at his film, his total body of work as you say, watched him in person, talked to his coaches about what his role in the defense was and how he was used, looked at his tangibles, and gave him a first round grade. 

(05-15-2025, 02:24 PM)c766 Wrote: The dynamic duo of Stewart and Scourton amassed a whooping 6 sacks last year, combined. 

What a set of disruptors  

(05-15-2025, 01:58 PM)jason Wrote: Exactly who on this team have the staff coached up properly? I guess if I squint I could argue it's Iosivas... Even then, that could've just been from way more opportunity with Tee being out, and Burton being outta line.

(05-15-2025, 02:19 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: You were the one who compared Volson a 4th round OL to Stewart a 1st round pick....

(05-15-2025, 02:30 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: No, i was comparing the situation where you were pro Volson for a long time and i didn't like him from the beginning. 

(05-15-2025, 02:32 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Okay, cool, you were right on that one. I was willing to give him a chance as he shown flashes of being good at times. But I wouldn't be against cutting
the guy now if it allowed us to add a better player or even better put some dough to Trey's new contract.

(05-15-2025, 01:55 PM)Sled21 Wrote: They won't be cackling when he hits their QB....

(05-15-2025, 02:27 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: And you conveniently leave out what type of Defense they were on. Know football a little bit, sacks are not everything.

Guarantee he will get a lot of sacks in the NFL on the Bengals who allow their Ends to actually rush the passer a lot.

(05-15-2025, 02:37 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Cool beans. 

I'm thinking we can just copypasta this post to use for SS when the time comes in about 3/4 years, eh?