(07-30-2025, 10:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Wouldn’t it be great if Murphy & Stewart’s production matched their first round selection?

(07-30-2025, 10:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Wouldn’t it be great if Murphy & Stewart’s production matched their first round selection?

(07-30-2025, 10:10 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: I drool at the prospect of the Eagles Dline...but don't dare expect or hope to see it. 

(07-31-2025, 07:40 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Murphy, Stewart and Ossai can combine for 20+ sacks to go along with what Trey puts up, I'd say that edge room would be considered formidable.

(07-31-2025, 09:23 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Fromidable would be an understatement. If Trey adds 15 sacks, that is 35 sacks or over 2 per game from just the DE's.

I would love it, but not sure a realistic outcome.

(07-31-2025, 09:27 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: What I am alluding to is that if things pan out well, meaning that all of the perceived DE talent that is on this team responds well to the new coaching, the pass rushing success could be night and day different for the Bengals compared to last season.

I'm not saying that it will happen, just being optimistic.

(07-31-2025, 07:40 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: If Murphy, Stewart and Ossai can combine for 20+ sacks to go along with what Trey puts up, I'd say that edge room would be considered formidable.

(07-31-2025, 09:27 AM)SunsetBengal Wrote: What I am alluding to is that if things pan out well, meaning that all of the perceived DE talent that is on this team responds well to the new coaching, the pass rushing success could be night and day different for the Bengals compared to last season.

I'm not saying that it will happen, just being optimistic.

(07-31-2025, 09:16 AM)Soonerpeace Wrote: I’d rather have their OL

(07-31-2025, 11:05 AM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I love the optimism and hope you are correct. I am anxiously waiting to see how Golden does. I always said great coaches can take existing players and make the team better. He does have Slayton, Stewart, Knight and a fe others plus a whole bunch of injured starters returning. They should have better team speed, the question is will they play fast. Murphy is an elite athlete, but for me plays slower than hs athleticism for example.

I think our defense is better in 2025 and like what I hear from Burrow and others talking about the defense in camp.

(07-31-2025, 11:43 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

(07-31-2025, 11:43 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote:

(07-30-2025, 07:04 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Here it is…
2.43 seconds to first pressure: PFF reported this as the fastest time in the FBS in 2024.

https://www.bengals.com/news/shemar-stewart-bengals-stay-true-to-board-and-needs-with-selection-of-first-round-pass-rusher

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2025/story/_/id/44510524/2025-nfl-draft-traits-potential-production-edge-rushers-shemar-stewart

(07-30-2025, 07:21 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: There's a perfectly good reason that he wasn't getting the sacks. As one of the other JN regulars pointed out, upon watching his "highlight" films, you can clearly see that he often allows his body to get out of control and somewhat discombobulated. (think legs still going one way while the torso attempts to change direction)

(07-30-2025, 08:33 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: "Same thing," Montgomery said. "Didn't have all the production. Get him in the NFL, teach him how to rush, teach him how to finish.

That's the key right there. Coaches and players need to help teach him how to get to the QB. The hope is to marry his athletic ability with technique like great pass rushers possess. If he's willing to learn and apply, he could be a gem. If he gets that teaching and just goes out and relies on past muscle memory, or just can't translate, forget it. 

(07-31-2025, 01:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thought I saw that with Shemar. He can beat his man quickly, he just has trouble finishing the tackle on the QB.

This can be taught up.


Spot on Sunset. Needs to reset once he beats his man and put himself in a position to make the tackle.

Trey should really help him with this and his hands.

But Shemar's get off is as quick as it gets and I didn't see him get too many false starts or at least I never heard of it as a negative with him.


It would be awesome if Montgomery can teach Shemar up in this aspect no doubt.

(07-31-2025, 01:26 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That's what she said....

(07-31-2025, 01:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thought I saw that with Shemar. He can beat his man quickly, he just has trouble finishing the tackle on the QB.

This can be taught up.


Spot on Sunset. Needs to reset once he beats his man and put himself in a position to make the tackle.

Trey should really help him with this and his hands.

But Shemar's get off is as quick as it gets and I didn't see him get too many false starts or at least I never heard of it as a negative with him.


It would be awesome if Montgomery can teach Shemar up in this aspect no doubt.

(07-31-2025, 01:26 PM)Sled21 Wrote: That's what she said....

(07-31-2025, 01:37 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: Just got off the phone with my source on the Fant signing. He wasn’t aware but he did tell me Taylor was very impressed with Montgomery so far.

(07-31-2025, 01:47 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thanks Sooner. I like what I am hearing about all the new coaches honestly, but you can see the Defense as a whole is playing way faster and 
more intense this camp. I liked what Montgomery said about Shemar Stewart, because that is what I saw in the film. If he can be coached up 
to harness his athleticism and finish look out.

(07-31-2025, 01:24 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Thought I saw that with Shemar. He can beat his man quickly, he just has trouble finishing the tackle on the QB.

This can be taught up.


Spot on Sunset. Needs to reset once he beats his man and put himself in a position to make the tackle.

Trey should really help him with this and his hands.

But Shemar's get off is as quick as it gets and I didn't see him get too many false starts or at least I never heard of it as a negative with him.


It would be awesome if Montgomery can teach Shemar up in this aspect no doubt.

(07-31-2025, 03:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Whether he finishes or not, the QB is not going to be able to slide to that side to get away from Hendrickson. Is Stewart simply applies the pressure he has the ability to, The QB is going to have to step up in the pocket and be at the mercy of the DT's.

(07-31-2025, 03:57 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Whether he finishes or not, the QB is not going to be able to slide to that side to get away from Hendrickson. Is Stewart simply applies the pressure he has the ability to, The QB is going to have to step up in the pocket and be at the mercy of the DT's.